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Vaccinations; recent developments

Started by SeaMonkey, December 01, 2014, 02:12:40 PM

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sarkeizen

Quote from: SeaMonkey on April 22, 2015, 01:50:45 AM
You may be correct in that assessment given the state of today's education and how it has negatively impacted the
state of affairs technologically in America.
No it has nothing to do with your ideas about education in the USA.  It's just that given the same amount of time allocated to study of the Intel ISA you will not be able to produce the same level of results as you did with the 6502.  In my house alone I have maybe five machines.  Of those machines four of them are different ISA targets.  So each of them has optimizations it responds to.  Many of them will have mutually exclusive optimal cases.  My D525 Atom requires code-reordering for optimal performance but it also has ssse3 which would make it distinct from even other Atoms, my WS machine has twelve cores, unless hyper-threading is enabled then it has 24 pseudo-cores.  My laptop has specific instructions which target AES encryption - AES256 is 10x faster using these.

It is simply erroneous to assume that today you can just break open a manual and read cycle timings and create optimal code.

QuoteSuffice it to say that there are processors in use which bear little resemblance to the advanced Intel products designed for public consumption.
Oh really?  Name two.
QuoteSarkey, you do seem to have some talent and some amount of intelligence.  Unfortunately (make that Very Unfortunately) your preoccupation with bolstering your artificial 'supremacist' persona detracts from what little credibility you infrequently reveal.  You are very amusing though...
I'd say you're more sad than amusing.  I've sat here and responded to your arguments with clear and straightforward counters.  I've shown you cycle timings for various instructions.  I clearly know this stuff better than you but either to keep up your dime-store mystic persona or because you really are deluded you have to say (or tell yourself) "no it's not like that, I have secret knowledge that counters that but I can't hold it up for examination".

Even if this is just a persona it seems rather than making up all this shit you could spend that time actually learning something to do with microprocessors...or playing video games but both of those are considerably harder than just making up stories that you can sort of half-believe to feel better about wherever your life is right now.

SeaMonkey

Quote from: Sarkeizen
No it has nothing to do with your ideas about education in the USA.  It's just that given the same amount of time allocated to study of the Intel ISA you will not be able to produce the same level of results as you did with the 6502.
...
It is simply erroneous to assume that today you can just break open a manual and read cycle timings and create optimal code.
...

In Truth, cycle timings have little to do with creating
'optimal code.'  It is much more about using the
resources of the processor in innovative ways to
accomplish a given task with the associated hardware.

Breaking out of the 'established norm' and trying
unconventional procedures.  Thinking outside the 'box.'

But it would seem that such behavior is alien to your
marriage to the MATRIX.  Your mental 'programming' will
not permit the freedom of innovation.  You obviously
have dread fear over being thought of as an "independent"
thinker.  Which of course well explains your constant
Pathetic Refrains.  A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste...

The 6502 is ancient history.  I wonder why you seem to
be stuck there...

Then again, you are amusing.  It is fun watching you
as you struggle to attain intellectual dominance.  A
failed effort to be sure.

sarkeizen

Quote from: SeaMonkey on April 22, 2015, 01:50:44 PM
In Truth, cycle timings have little to do with creating 'optimal code.'
Spoken like someone without a clue.  If you had a CPU where moving values between registers  took seven hundred billion cycles and another did it in one.  You would approach coding radically differently between the two.  Hence optimal code has everything to do with cycle timings. :)   
QuoteThe 6502 is ancient history.  I wonder why you seem to be stuck there...
I'm not why would you think that? Perhaps you're not listening?
QuoteIt is fun watching you as you struggle to attain intellectual dominance.
I think you have to know something before anyone would consider you worth dominating.   Let me know when you do.

I notice that you've been unable to name the non-Intel CPU's that you referenced as "real space age stuff".   Who buys these fictions you come up with?

SeaMonkey

Quote from: Sarke
Spoken like someone without a clue.  If you had a CPU where moving values between registers  took seven hundred billion cycles and another did it in one.  You would approach coding radically differently between the two.  Hence optimal code has everything to do with cycle timings. :)

Your rather childish example belies a true lack
of comprehension.  Selecting the proper instructions
to accomplish a given task reliably and without any
possibility of error is of paramount importance.  With,
that is, the present style of microprocessor architecture
and its sequential execution model.  There are, fortunately,
other options available to some few.

Quote from: Sarke
I notice that you've been unable to name the non-Intel CPU's that you referenced as "real space age stuff".   Who buys these fictions you come up with?

I would not (spoon feeding) name them.  That is for you
to discover by your own effort.  Although, it is very unlikely
that you will have the ability to do so.  In which case you'll
simply have to wait until disclosure is made to the hoi polloi.

In the meantime look up into the sky and beyond.


sarkeizen

Quote from: SeaMonkey on April 22, 2015, 04:04:54 PM
Your rather childish example belies a true lack of comprehension.  Selecting the proper instructions
to accomplish a given task reliably and without any possibility of error is of paramount importance.
The question was about optimal code.  Code that performs a task seven million times slower than other code that performs the same task is even by SeaMonkey standards (the lowest rank on the universal scale of critical thinking) sub-optimal. 

So let me know, when you know something and then we can talk. :)

QuoteI would not (spoon feeding) name them.
So in other words you made this up as part of your dime-store mystic persona.  Thanks for the heads up. :)

Seriously does anyone actually BUY the whole "I know more than you act" you put on?  It's not exactly very convincing. :)