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Lenz free generator

Started by life is illusion, December 21, 2014, 03:20:03 PM

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tinman

Quote from: i_ron on August 07, 2016, 11:03:55 AM

Ah, but it is good to see everyone posting in the spirit of camaraderie!


Being a recent forced retiree  of a certain "120 watts in and 800 watts out"  forum, I was trying to come up with a catchy name for this group?  LOL


Ron

Ah-did that involve a UFO  :D


Brad

tinman

Quote from: Erfinder on August 07, 2016, 11:22:40 AM














Regards

QuoteI am in no hurry to share anything with you.  You got everyone thinking you got it all figured out anyway.  I am enjoying the sideline laughing my ass off at your conjecture.  The longer one reads your posts and views your presentations, and then does ones own homework, and compares what one learns from what one reads /views from you, the more one sees that you are just as lost today as you were when you first started....

The fact that i can nail it every time,in many different configurations says otherwise.
I know exactly what is happening,and can build the device to make use of this effect.

QuoteThat one vague video of mine reveals more about what can be done, and the path which should be taken than your LAG, a title which has no justification, ever will. The thing I get the biggest kick out of is recognizing that you have no idea where the power you are desperately seeking is supposed to be coming from.  Its depressing watching you struggle with the concepts surrounding the acceleration concept, its even more depressing watching you drag the gullible from experiment to experiment and then dropping them off there, leaving them with the same questions that they started with.  If this weren't enough, the constant bitching and complaining and whining has literally stripped you of all street credit.  The scope and meters are more important than the ideas, and anyone who thinks opposite is an idiot?  I am fed the fuck up with all this, your term RUBBISH, and I am not alone, but the others will not voice their opinion, oh well....some one has to say something.

Sorry Erfinder,but you are only fooling your self. That last video of yours shows nothing at all--nothing. No power measurements,no explanation of the configuration-nothing,and yet you think it shows us everything we need to know  :o

QuoteAnd all this from a guy who has yet to graduate from the SG circuit....This from a guy who has replicated every promising pulse motor concept, making it your business to show that the person you are replicating doesn't know what hes doing.  You sir don't know what you're doing, but you like to lead others to believe you do, fine and dandy, gonna need to draw out a map for all those garden paths you've led folk down.  One of my favorite fuck ups of yours pertains to the Zero Force Motor, I thought it was really amusing how you went out of your way to suggest that your misnamed concept is superior to that concept, its not, and you would know this had you done your homework on the subject, the concept and the associated principles, known and unknown to the public are old.  The LAG is an abomination, a sick joke being played on the gullible, and a slap in the face to all who paved the way, you would be wise to review history.

A big opinion from some one so small,and i see yet another JB fanatic desperately clinging to the rubbish pile.

Perhaps you would like to put your theory to the test,and take me on in a build off?--put your money where your mouth is ;)
Perhaps you put your little motor that we got to see in your latest video-->or should i say-only video of late,up against my latest creation--both of which shows this acceleration under load.
Electrical P/in,and mechanical,electrical and heat P/out.

What do you say Erfinder--you up for that ?

I always find it amusing to see people put my work down,but come to the crunch,they normally go running when it comes time to put there devices or theories up against mine.

Sorry Erfinder,but i have to laugh when you state that your video showed us so much,when in fact,it showed nothing at all.


Brad

hoptoad

Quote from: Erfinder on August 06, 2016, 11:57:24 AM
snip...
My method results in the "desired" effect, namely, consumption must increase!  This leads to your motor becoming stronger with increasing RPM versus weaker as is the case with the classical acceleration under load demonstrations.
snip...
Regards
This is the area of interest for me. THE TORQUE CURVE. Any electric motor that exhibits a high RPM torque and not just low end torque is perfect for electric motor racing. Consumption be damned! Especially with electric drag racing. Extra torque as the revs go up can mean the difference between win or bin.

Your statement 'motor becoming stronger with increasing RPM versus weaker', reflects the results of a round of experiments with air cores I did a few years ago. My approach was/is completely unlike yours I gather, hence my curiosity about the parameters of your machine is piqued.
While I acknowledge your right to keep your configuration to yourself, I still hope you'll reconsider sharing. This is after all, an open discussion forum.
Cheers

tinman

Quote from: hoptoad on August 08, 2016, 03:04:10 AM
Consumption be damned! Especially with electric drag racing. Extra torque as the revs go up can mean the difference between win or bin.

Your statement 'motor becoming stronger with increasing RPM versus weaker', reflects the results of a round of experiments with air cores I did a few years ago. My approach was/is completely unlike yours I gather, hence my curiosity about the parameters of your machine is piqued.
While I acknowledge your right to keep your configuration to yourself, I still hope you'll reconsider sharing. This is after all, an open discussion forum.
Cheers

QuoteMy method results in the "desired" effect, namely, consumption must increase!  This leads to your motor becoming stronger with increasing RPM versus weaker as is the case with the classical acceleration under load demonstrations.
snip...
Regards

And mine decreases the required P/in,but increase the torque with a gain in RPM.

As i stated before,the lorentz force must be increased-not decreased as many believe.

QuoteThis is the area of interest for me. THE TORQUE CURVE. Any electric motor that exhibits a high RPM torque and not just low end torque is perfect for electric motor racing.

In order to do this,you must maintain current flow value throughout the RPM range,without having to increase the voltage.
This is what i have achieved with the L.A.G. Current value is maintained by increasing (what most refer to here as) Lenz,not decreasing !!Lenz!!.
Lenz is a law,and so using lorentz force is more applicable here.

It is a miss-belief that in order to gain acceleration under load,you must decrease !Lenz!,when in fact,to maintain current flow,while your electric motor still acts as a generator also,is to increase the lorentz force--and there is only one way to do that,and it is opposite to what others are trying to do.

Below are two video's where my research into this !speed up under load! started.
The first one shows not only a gain in torque,but a decrease in power consumption also.
The second video shows the RT up against an !off the shelf! motor,in way of a house fan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6xRcSkPYn4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szpJ97M58G4


Some of us talk,and some of us do.

Brad

hoptoad

Quote from: tinman on August 08, 2016, 05:53:15 AM
Brad
I'm aware of your RT work Brad. However, in this instance, I am more curious about Erfinders AIR core configuration.
Cheers