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Lenz free generator

Started by life is illusion, December 21, 2014, 03:20:03 PM

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EMJunkie

Quote from: Erfinder on August 10, 2016, 02:55:37 PM



I get slammed by these two, and no one sheds a tear....to answer your question.....no....




Regards



Perhaps you may see why I posted this, certainly it is not out of sympathy for infered treatment. For this you have bought on yourself from your own actions!

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EMJunkie

Quote from: allcanadian on August 10, 2016, 03:05:59 PM
Maybe a story might help, a long time ago in a land far away a man named Earnshaw developed a theorem. Earnshaw's theorem and he stated that "a collection of point charges cannot be maintained in a stable stationary equilibrium configuration solely by the electrostatic interaction of the charges". He also believed this applied to magnetic fields and everyone agreed one cannot balance or levitate one magnet on another. Then one day a clever inventor stumbled onto the fact that if the levitating magnet was spun like a top that in fact it could levitate in a stable manner. Some people believed Earnshaws theorem was an irrefutable law which had now been broken while some experts proclaimed the law was not broken. It was not broken because an extra force was present, the centrifugal force of the spinning top was present balancing the magnet and Earnshaws supposed law does not actually include extra forces only free floating charges and magnets. Thus a theorem or law may seem to always apply but only so long as the conditions applicable to the law do not change in any way.

This is very similar to the story of Lenz Law which states that "the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux and to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion". Think about that... what does the Law actually say?. A changing magnetic field will induce a current in a circuit creating a second magnetic field which will oppose the first magnetic field change. It does not actually mention the source of the inducing magnetic field being opposed only the magnetic field itself being opposed. Thus a magnetic field source could create a rapidly changing magnetic field impulse then turn off before the field has had time to induce a current in the external circuit and the field source cannot be effected and Lenz Law has not been violated yet the external circuit would be induced by the field change after the source has turned off. Anything less would imply the field change has induced the target before it has actually reached the target which is absurd.

This is the problem with believing things which are not true and reading things into something which was never there nor implied to be there. Lenz said only the "inducing field" is opposed by the induced field no more no less.




AC, this is a very clever post.

Any and every Induced EMF, no matter how many times an Induced EMF occurs, in a single System, has an Effect of the Source, does it not?

But, if the Source is no longer a part of the System, switched out, then the Source is no longer affected, as you say.

How long can a Magnetic Field be kept High after Switch out of the Source?

In a super conductor, indefinitely, for ever in our terms, no Source, but Magnetic Field stays High... Electron's keep going and going and going...

So the Source can change. Not necessarily the Polarity, depending on point of View, but the Location in the system can very easily be changed. This can be done many ways. A common way is to short one coil... This I know you are very well aware of.

One point of view does not make for any proof, how you term:

Quote from: allcanadian on August 10, 2016, 03:05:59 PM

He also believed this applied to magnetic fields and everyone agreed one cannot balance or levitate one magnet on another. Then one day a clever inventor stumbled onto the fact that if the levitating magnet was spun like a top that in fact it could levitate in a stable manner.


A Postulate, everyone agrees, with no proof...  Although most experiments might hold, who's to say one wont. After all, Charges are already in constant motion, all having their own Centrifugal forces... Thus making it true that a simple Magnet, will Violate Earnshaw's theorem before this experiment was even proposed - Surely we agree on this point?

There in lays the very basis of how we currently understand the Magnetic Field.

I was surprised to read this post.

   Chris Sykes
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EMJunkie

Quote from: allcanadian on August 10, 2016, 03:38:03 PM
@Erfinder
I have found truth generally comes to light by asking the right questions which may eventually reveal the truth. One cannot fight a pack of hyenas and win, you dig a pit, bait them and let the truth of their own nature produce the desired result.

I had an interesting question the other day, a friend said "thank God". I then said "oh you believe in God?"...*as everyone nearby who knows me rolled their eye's*. I then asked, "if you believe in a God because you cannot believe the universe always was and must have been created then what created God?". Personally, my not understanding why the universe exists seems more believable to me than believing a God created from nothing created the universe from nothing because there are many things I do not understand. However something from apparently nothing such as Gods, the Universe and Energy is generally where I draw the line.

AC



Beliefs are often a causal effect of one or more turns of events. I believe Richard Feynman said it best:


Some of us do the best we can, some do not, but if we have a grounded basis to proceed with, then what follows can be examined with some certainty, no belief enters the picture!


   Chris Sykes
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EMJunkie

Quote from: tinman on August 10, 2016, 07:29:24 PM


Masiha-->, gives you the desire to understand and help others with their problems but, at the same time, you can become too involved and worrying as the result.
::)


Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeZ_F1op9N8&index=7&list=FLsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

You have no heart,only the desire to shoot down those that dont agree with you,and if you had half a brain,you'd be dangerous.

Well,we have all seen what you have--oh wait,no we havnt  ::)
The only reason we wont see anything from you,is because you know i could explain it away in a heartbeat,and it will conform to known science. That would mean you have nothing special to show-as you claim to have-->and that would not be good for you ;)

Seen your work--dont need to be qualified to explain it.
The problem you have,is you do not understand your own work--that has always been your downfall.


What i see is a case of-->if you cant dazzle them with brilliance,then baffle them with bullshit. ;)

Your video showed what? .
You have no original idea's,as all that you do has been done before--and there is nothing special or magical about it. It is only your lack of understanding that make's it special to you.

And yet it is you that now has Hoptoad wasting his time on something that will achieve nothing--unless he wants a big bathroom heater.


Brad




Hahahaha - Classically Funny and so true!!!

Beautiful!!!

Avenged!!!


   Chris Sykes
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ramset

Just one comment
to my knowledge Milehigh is not banned , apparently Terms of use rules are being enforced ,and selective Moderation applied.
I know this moderation is annoying to Stefan as well as frustrating to members.

it would be better to stay within the agreed boundaries of the Forum rules.

respectfully

Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma