Lenz free generator

[Johan_1955]

Twelve coils in series , the field has to propagate in those windings, Shut the first one off before it gets to number twelve, Or better yet, shut it off and fire it before the propagation hits twelve.

Dear Shylo,

Thanks, best post in ages, Serie-Coil(Cavity)-Resonance.

Did mention the same before in other threads, JT-101, ............. !?

They don't read, the BATTLE seems to be more important, so adult ..... ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCduKbDuzmY

Regards, Johan

[tinman]

@tinman

Touché, I would be interested to hear how you conducted your test and it is important that the instrument used not be subject to magnetic induction. That is no iron and no magnetic materials which produce a secondary field influencing the results. This is why I use hall effect sensors exclusively which are mostly benign so far as any real influence on the field to be measured is concerned.


AC

First up,what type of hall effect sensor did you use?

First simple test,one which im sure you have tried.
Take two magnets of same size and grade-lets say a couple of N52 neo rod magnets of size 1/2 inch diameter x 1 inch long. Join the two together-north to south. They have now become one magnet. You say the center of this magnet has the weakest part of the field-or is neutral ?. Well, try and pull them apart--not so weak now,is it.

Second test is with an electromagnet.
We take a long solenoid/coil-say 1 inch in diameter,and 4 inches long,and we use this as our primary. We then have a flat pancake type coil,that is say 1/4 inch thick,with ID just enough to slide over the primary coil,and an OD of say 2 1/2 inches. We now pulse a DC current,or apply an AC current to the primary. You will find that the secondary will produce the most power when placed in the center of the primary-not at either end where you think the magnetic field is strongest.
Once again,the magnetic(and electric field in this case),is strongest at the center of the electromagnet--not at the ends.


Brad

[minnie]

I would say that the strongest magnetic field would be at the poles.
Once you try to part two magnets you've essentially got two
individual magnets and hence the attraction will be greatest.
The electric field,however,is quite different.
           John.

[allcanadian]

@tinman

First up,what type of hall effect sensor did you use?

I use various analog hall effect sensor tied to this, https://www.sparkfun.com/products/retired/11225. The NI Labview setup allows me collect real sensor data, calibrate the sensors, apply any math functions I want and display the hard data in real time in multiple graphical formats. The NI labview site is here--http://www.ni.com/labview/why/. Note this is not a simulation nor is it speculation, this is scientific software used by real scientists for scientific research. Trust me... it will be the best $50 you ever spent on research and real data in indispensable. I will post a picture of my setup when I get home from work tonight.

First simple test,one which im sure you have tried.
Take two magnets of same size and grade-lets say a couple of N52 neo rod magnets of size 1/2 inch diameter x 1 inch long. Join the two together-north to south. They have now become one magnet. You say the center of this magnet has the weakest part of the field-or is neutral ?. Well, try and pull them apart--not so weak now,is it.

Fair enough, on your magnet the highest external field strength is not at the center between the N-S transition, it is not at the N or S pole face as one might expect but at the pole face corner where the face transitions to the side of the magnet. How do I know this?, because I mapped the field strength on every part of the magnet with a scientific instrument in real time.

Second test is with an electromagnet.
We take a long solenoid/coil-say 1 inch in diameter,and 4 inches long,and we use this as our primary. We then have a flat pancake type coil,that is say 1/4 inch thick,with ID just enough to slide over the primary coil,and an OD of say 2 1/2 inches. We now pulse a DC current,or apply an AC current to the primary. You will find that the secondary will produce the most power when placed in the center of the primary-not at either end where you think the magnetic field is strongest.
Once again,the magnetic(and electric field in this case),is strongest at the center of the electromagnet--not at the ends.

I would ask, what are you really measuring?. You are measuring the output voltage produced by the coil which is the result of mutual induction between the two coils and two distinct fields. Thus you are not actually measuring field strength at any given point per say but the efficiency of the mutual induction between the coils and core. You see this is why we must be very careful when considering what we are actually measuring in reality and what we think may be happening. As I said, you cannot accurately measure anything when the instrument used physically effects the measure.

AC

[darediamond]

You still need many rice to eat. boy!   

Oh mine,.you are specially funny.

I can't stop laughing....
Gadem.."you still need many rice to eat boy" lol