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Lenz free generator

Started by life is illusion, December 21, 2014, 03:20:03 PM

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Magluvin

Quote from: tinman on September 06, 2016, 01:00:26 AM
Great video Mags.
Were you just measuring voltage across the coil,or did you have a load across it as well ?.

Yeah, just voltage output of the coil, no load test yet.

Mags

Magluvin

Quote from: tinman on September 06, 2016, 01:11:17 AM
Well if there was any of the EE guys in this thread,you would get arguments from them i would think,as the magnetic field produced by the coil that is rapped around the toroid,is suppose  to be containd within the toroid core--but your timing is saying the opposite is happening.

Brad

Its possible the core gets saturated and the field is no longer in the core, but it also works the same at lower inputs like 4v and 3v. It may be the rotor mags are a 3rd ingredient to interact with the fields in the core. The orbo cores are vertical and wound all the way from end to end, so this effect would be neutral in that case, and the rotor mag fields of the orbo dont cut the toroid windings, they go with the direction of the windings as I had shown the other day.

I am just surprised I am getting induction and motoring at all, since like you say above. ;)

But at least we have some new things to know. ;D

Mags

Magluvin

Quote from: tinman on September 06, 2016, 01:15:11 AM
Mags

One more thing
Your magnets are cylinder/disc type magnets,so how is the magnetic field orientated with those magnets?


Brad

They are N52 diametric mags on the rotor. 1/2in dia 5/8 long. I have 1/2in 1/8 diametrics that fit the rotor also from back in the Whipmag days.


Will have to see if the core is being over saturated and the rotor mag is attracted that way, or if it is just the rotor mag interaction with the core that enables the mag to interact with the core field. to eliminate the saturation possibility, Ill see if the core picks up iron powder when different power levels are applied.

The initial torque is lower than what we might expect compared to once it gets going.

I have to make a new stand for the core to try some secondary windings on the core furthest away from the rotor. It may be something similar to your rotary transformer idea. Dont know till we try.
Fun stuff though. ;)

Mags

barbosi

Quote from: EMJunkie on September 05, 2016, 05:34:32 PM

barbosi - You sound like an Erfinder dressed in drag. Infact you sign off many of your posts in the same way!!!

You could take your Bi-Polar Buddy, and start a B I B S Thread: Believe In Bull S*@%

Please feel free to prove me wrong, I will be more than happy to concede, I am only human.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: We all know what Bibs do, catch and soak up Dribble!!!

I won't be a boor like yourself, I will explain the audience why I considered tinman's experiment without any value.
His core has 2 ( not one but two) shunts between the 2 coils, hence the signal will be lost. No brainer.

With attachment of the magnet, we all know what to expect (a better demonstration is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci9AI5KuToM)

Even the phase shift tinman is not able to explain. For the rest of audience that is willing to learn and think for themselves, here is a complete analysis: http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE19en.htm

Why EM junkie defends such pseudo science is behind my comprehension. Unless he's paid to do so - a shill - to distract with disinformation and to deter the real researchers from the real progress that has been made. Yeah people, build away all kind of useless contraptions, waste your time and resources and you'll get far(ish).

Under pretense humour:
Quote from: EMJunkie on September 05, 2016, 09:04:28 PM


Humour:

Brad, a wonderfull invention, not just for Camping: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/152200368906

This is what Erfinder, and his Bi-Polar Buddy, Barbosi, uses!!!

Not quite the RT, or Partnered Outout Coils, but just about as good!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org
you out right insult Erfinder and me. Very mature and professional. Your scientific arguments stand for your talents.

Where is the forum's police now?

When the Power of Love overcomes the Love of Power, there will be peace.

allcanadian

@barbosi

QuoteI won't be a boor like yourself, I will explain the audience why I considered tinman's experiment without any value.
His core has 2 ( not one but two) shunts between the 2 coils, hence the signal will be lost. No brainer.

If you are referring to the shading coils they were removed and if you were referring to the magnetic material surrounding the inner core then no obviously the signal would not be lost because it is a function of reluctance. The field follows the path of least resistance ie. most magnetic material which in this case is through both coils. So no it is not a no brainer and you are mistaken.

QuoteWith attachment of the magnet, we all know what to expect (a better demonstration is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci9AI5KuToM)
Even the phase shift tinman is not able to explain. For the rest of audience that is willing to learn and think for themselves, here is a complete analysis: http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE19en.htm

No again you are mistaken and the jnaudin apparatus is completely different from the one by tinman in question. First jnaudin's apparatus is open path, second it has a moving rotor, third it has no permanent magnets, fourth it has no alternate closed paths. Your making a very poor attempt at comparing apples and oranges and give no explanation as to why.

QuoteWhy EM junkie defends such pseudo science is behind my comprehension. Unless he's paid to do so - a shill - to distract with disinformation and to deter the real researchers from the real progress that has been made. Yeah people, build away all kind of useless contraptions, waste your time and resources and you'll get far(ish).

How can you consider questioning why a given phenomena occurs pseudo science when it is in fact the basis of science?.  Why does the magnet increase field coupling between the coils when it should saturate the core decreasing the coupling?. It is an honest question which apparently you do not understand which I find quite interesting. In fact unlike anything you have said this experiment has given me many more idea's for other experiments I would like to try concerning different configurations.

AC
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