Lenz free generator

[barbosi]

Allcanadian,

I am a bit surprised by your response but I guess just in a few words my suggestion was too veiled, so I'll try slower.

So in about 100 years we have been disconnected from the progress made in the field:

1. Back in the Franklin's time, people used solid iron rods for their electromagnets.
2. In Tesla's time, it was known the benefit of lamination of the iron cores.
3. In his patent 524426, Tesla showed the effects of phase shift due to the reluctance of the cores (see  Naudin experiment) by interrupting the magnetic circuit.
4. Later Tesla got rid of the iron completely from the core of its coils.

My question for you, and you only is: why did he renounced to the iron and went air core?
If you don't know the answer, then you have work to do. Let your public answer to inspire the true researchers.

For the others I'm sorry, I waste enough time to read your posts.

Respectfully

[Magluvin]

I won't be a boor like yourself, I will explain the audience why I considered tinman's experiment without any value.
His core has 2 ( not one but two) shunts between the 2 coils, hence the signal will be lost. No brainer.

Are those round parts in the core opening iron?  If they are, then I have to agree with the shunting. So the magnet probably saturates them enough to let the wave pass.

And like you said in the latest post about Teslas phase shift transformer, I wonder if the input were stepped up, would there be more of an equal output voltage? like would there be very little to none if the input was lower? Like the Gabriel device, if I remember correctly, the input did not show on the secondary till the input reached a certain level. I think Teslas pat says similary that.

And about Tesla later not using cores at all, Id have to say that he still used them in motors and generators.

Mags

[Magluvin]

One thing I have to say on Brads vid with the magnet in place, he had a load on the sec and the voltage on that load was near as much as the input. Now if the windings are identical, even without the load, the sec voltage should be only equal or less than the input voltage. If he takes off the load, is the sec voltage higher than the primary input? If so, with a 1 to 1 ratio, and sine wave in, no pulsing, how is that?  Id say the 100ohm resistor probably drags down the sec voltage more than the tiny bit it is below the input voltage in the scope shot.  If it is higher than the primary, then we need to find out how that comes about for a 1 to 1 ratio transformer.  Heck, Id like to see the sec voltage without the load and without the magnet. All to compare.

Mags

[allcanadian]

@barbosi

So in about 100 years we have been disconnected from the progress made in the field:

1. Back in the Franklin's time, people used solid iron rods for their electromagnets.
2. In Tesla's time, it was known the benefit of lamination of the iron cores.
3. In his patent 524426, Tesla showed the effects of phase shift due to the reluctance of the cores (see  Naudin experiment) by interrupting the magnetic circuit.
4. Later Tesla got rid of the iron completely from the core of its coils.

My question for you, and you only is: why did he renounced to the iron and went air core?
If you don't know the answer, then you have work to do. Let your public answer to inspire the true researchers.

Tesla did not denounce iron and in many applications said it was much more practical. Tesla's research with high voltage, high frequency currents required very fast rise/fall times which were dampened by iron cores and also introduced losses. Tesla moved towards air core coils because they were much more efficient at higher frequencies. Then he reached the next hurdle which was that the current induced in an air coil produced a magnetic field which also limited or dampened the rise/fall times and maximum operating frequency. At this point he invented his "extra coils" which were not dampened by the induced current/magnetic field and free to oscillate at their own natural resonant frequency producing the desired effects he was searching for.
There is much more to it than this short explanation however there is no need to go there here.

Of course this is off topic and we are not debating HV/HF phenomena which has it's own set of difficulties. We are considering electro-magnetic devices which may operate at low frequency and low voltage which are much easier to build and experiment with. Concerning jnaudins experiment and Tesla patent 524426, it should be obvious to anyone skilled in the art how they work.

AC

[EMJunkie]

Oh,the key board Rambo strikes again.
Just like in any other topic,you are all words ,and no action.

You do know Chris is an Aussie like myself-dont you?,and we really dont give a rats ass what you have to say,or pay any attention to your idle threats.

You belong where your language says you come from-and that is the gutter.

You want to take some one on,then take me on big man--dribble out all the foul language you can,and i will do what i have done to you all along--laugh.

You think you are so bad with sprouting out all that foul language,well when i try to picture what you might look like,all i keep seeing is Beaker from the Muppet's.

Yep, our resident moron is all threats and too fat to get out of his arm chair. A school yard bully that never went to school!

Wait till Stefan see this!!! Bill are you seeng this?

Whats the technical difference between: Magneto-motive Force (F) = Turns(N) x Current(I) and Electromotive Force (E.M.F) = -NdPhi/dt (The change in Flux(Phi) through Turns(N) over the course of Time (t))?

Science seems to have some sort of inconsistency here that is never bought up. No one has ever mentioned it, as far as I know.

EMF:
Electromotive force, also called emf (denoted and measured in volts), is the voltage developed by any source of electrical energy such as a battery or dynamo. It is generally defined as the electrical potential for a source in a circuit.


MMF:
Similar to the way that electromotive force (EMF) drives a current of electrical charge in electrical circuits, magnetomotive force (MMF) 'drives' magnetic flux through magnetic circuits. The term 'magnetomotive force', though, is a misnomer since it is not a force nor is anything moving.



Voltage:
Voltage, electric potential difference, electric pressure or electric tension (formally denoted ∆V or ∆U, but more often simply as V or U, for instance in the context of Ohm's or Kirchhoff's laws) is the difference in electric potential energy between two points per unit electric charge.


Current:
An electric current is a flow of electric charge. In electric circuits this charge is often carried by moving electrons in a wire. It can also be carried by ions in an electrolyte, or by both ions and electrons such as in a plasma.

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