Reboot: Is the "delayed Lenz effect" real or just a misunderstanding?

[synchro1]

Synchro1 you keep repeating this claim.  The claim is false.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/farlaw.html

Induction is an electromagnetic phenomenon.
As seen above induction is necessary in order to have a situation where Lenz' Law is applicable.
Ergo Lenz' Law describes an aspect of an electromagnetic phenomenon.
Ergo any reference to Lenz must reference electromagnetics.

This is very fundamental.  There is no give.

You'e just full of crap.

[MarkE]

One thing that I think is happening is that most of the devices and circuits that are supposed to show the effects that are attributed to DLE are actually so inefficient that the usual tests might be just "running on inefficiency" if you know what I mean.

My "garden hose" example tries to illustrate what I mean. Say you are in the back yard with your garden hose, on full blast, and you have a sensitive flowmeter attached to the nozzle. You're spraying your garden, the sidewalk, over the fence etc. like mad, at full power, and you take a reading on the flowmeter. Now someone comes along with a bucket and collects some of the overspray. Does the flowmeter reading change? Of course it doesn't. Now the person pours the water in the bucket onto the garden where it belongs... so you are getting more water to the garden than before. Does the flowmeter reading change?
Get it? Running on inefficiency.

There is a belief, it seems, that simply shorting an output coil provides the "heaviest" load on a generator system. This may not be true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_power_transfer_theorem

This sort of situation happens frequently:  A fundamentally inefficient process is used as a reference.  A variable is changed and presto there is better overall efficiency.  When the source of inefficient operation is a shunt regulator then the change in the output is not detected by the input.  A shunt regulator can be configured to load an input with a constant load, while delivering a variable output.  Another analogy is controlling the motion of a vehicle by maintaining constant throttle and varying control over the brakes.  Power from the engine goes into heating the brakes or accelerating the car / overcoming friction and aerodynamic losses.  Even though the engine load can be arranged to be very steady, this is a very inefficient way to run a car.

You are also absolutely correct that minimum load impedance rarely means most externally delivered power.  It often means the most internally dissipated power.  In the simple DC case:  Given a source with an internal resistance R_SOURCE and an external load with impedance R_LOAD  the maximum load current occurs when R_LOAD approaches zero.  However, that means that almost all the source voltage appears across R_SOURCE, and therefore almost all power is dissipated in R_SOURCE.

[MarkE]

You'e just full of crap.

If so then you should be able to refute my statements using verifiable facts.

[synchro1]

If so then you should be able to refute my statements using verifiable facts.

Everybody knows you jerks are just a couple of clowns. Lenz's law has nothing to do with DLE. The effect should be termed Magnetic core delayed Lenz effect.

[synchro1]

No one can make heads nor tails out of anything you monkeys say. You grifters have been running a "Back Alley Shell and Pea Game" the enire time for your "Tar Sand" payolla group. Your're completely shameless about trying to dupe the learners. I refuse to let you get away with it.

What I need help with is to determine what effect magnets have on core viscosity and phase lag. All you three have done is side track this branch of research. Last year this time, Milehigh bombed in on my Conradelectro magnet core coil test and caused a serious problem. Nothing meaningfull has taken place in the meantime.