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[jonfrommanahawkin1]

Dave makes a great point, why don't one of you take a unit and run some tests instead of just trolling.
id be very curious about your findings, but you need to follow the directions.

i know its incredible to think that to test an experiment you need to follow directions but if you guys have all this scientific equipment that cost hundreds of dollars why not buy one for scrutiny and run a "scientific Test"

put your money where your mouth is. there has to be some validity or fraud charges would have been filed long ago

jon

p.s. you're all still window lickers

[MarkE]

Think what you will... As you never have used the device.

-Dave Wing

Here is a nice if old video on how audio CDs work.  They have extensive redundant coding that tolerates even bursts of errors.  The example given is radial slots cut through the CD. Because of the distributed block error coding (Reed-Solomon), all kinds of bit errors can occur, even in contiguous groups and the original datastream is faithfully reproduced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYO6vm9PTsI

This gives rise to the first problem with Bedini's fraudulent claims that you promote:  CDs are highly tolerant of:  smudges, scratches and other surface defects. 

Then there is the second problem with Bedini's fraudulent claims that you promote:  Spinning what amounts to an aluminum and plastic platter around magnets can at most induce heat into the aluminum from eddy currents.  That won't do anything unless the plastic gets soft enough to flow.  It it does then there would be an asymmetric distortion of the plastic at the outside radius if the disc versus the center.  If the distortion is severe enough, the disc will be ruined.  If the disc does not heat up enough to distort then the magnets have done nothing.

Then there is the third problem with Bedini's fraudulent claims that you promote:  frequency signal components occur over the length of track spirals, but they are not linear due to the block error coding.  There is no simple way to get at some frequency band of the source audio material without decoding the disc.  Bedini's fraudulent "Clarifier" has no way to identify different frequency components of the source audio, nor does it have any way to operate on them.

The most basic and complete proof that the "Clarifier" is a worthless piece of junk is to compare the source PCM streams before and after a treatment by the device.  They will be identical.  Bedini has gooped up a motor and some magnets in a box, and you sell it for $200. - $300.  Although looking at your low transaction rate, there are very few people buying this completely bogus snake oil that you offer.

[MarkE]

Dave makes a great point, why don't one of you take a unit and run some tests instead of just trolling.
id be very curious about your findings, but you need to follow the directions.

i know its incredible to think that to test an experiment you need to follow directions but if you guys have all this scientific equipment that cost hundreds of dollars why not buy one for scrutiny and run a "scientific Test"

put your money where your mouth is. there has to be some validity or fraud charges would have been filed long ago

jon

p.s. you're all still window lickers

TK has offered to perform objective tests.  Dave wants only subjective tests.  Such tests hold no scientific value.  Of course you could always look into the subject matter and easily learn for yourself that Bedini's device has neither the means to alter the CD, nor the means to detect what would need to be altered in order to "Clarify" one.

If you would like to part with $1000. I know where you can purchase a gravity normalizer.  Perfect for walking on high ledges, the gravity normalizer looks like an ordinary 5 stone weight.  However it has been treated with magnetic vortex technology that equalizes its gravitational convergence with whoever carries it.  Never fear high winds on a ledge 100 feet up again!

[jonfrommanahawkin1]

till you run one your comments are null and void

out side of this thread ive never even heard of this device nore would i purchase one but i do use a lot of drill bits in my shop and when the"bit sharpener 3000" or what ever it was called came out, there was a long list of people like you that said it didnt work then when i went to my fathers to help him with a project i noticed he had one. after using it and remarking about the trolls he simply replied "if you read the directions it works how it says it does"

so stop b*tching, read the directions and do it

jon

[MarkE]

till you run one your comments are null and void

out side of this thread ive never even heard of this device nore would i purchase one but i do use a lot of drill bits in my shop and when the"bit sharpener 3000" or what ever it was called came out, there was a long list of people like you that said it didnt work then when i went to my fathers to help him with a project i noticed he had one. after using it and remarking about the trolls he simply replied "if you read the directions it works how it says it does"

so stop b*tching, read the directions and do it

jon

LOL, by your logic until you've tried the gravitational normalizer you don't know if it works or not either.  When will you be buying one and trying it out?