New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago

[memoryman]

Friedrich, as MH and TK have said, it is not hard or expensive to show conclusive proof of OU, yet it is never done.
Rather than general talk, please be specific.
ARE ANY OF THE DEVICES THAT YOU PROMOTE OU N THE NORMALLY ACCEPTED SENSE?

[MileHigh]

Rick might be gone for good if he feels responding here is a net loss in terms of his overall self interest.

He makes a wishy-washy claim of over unity on one of his YouTube clips so I thought a look at it would be interesting.

4 DualPole producing maybe 3 times output mosfet driven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPYQVOQCKVo

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I converted an older 4 Dualpole motor from a year ago to run off of a smaller mosfet and be triggered by either the reed switch or a hall switch. I took a hall switch off one of the dc fans and used it. It was difficult because it was a latching type which requires the opposite pole to turn it off. So the on time of the motor was considerably longer than normal which created a much more inefficient system than the reed switch offered with the same mosfet. This was as expected. However, turning the rotor in the opposite direction and carefully positioning the latching
hall sensor switch on its side close to the generator coil allowed for a really good performance. The rpms and torque was desirable and would appear to be at least 6W worth of power (which was all that we were supplying--less than half an ampere at 12V. This 6W is based upon a later run of the motor when I repositioned the hall where it dramatically increased the RPM and reduced the amp draw.) The charging rate was fast as well. The battery was charging up to 17V while the primary was holding 12.7 around. At the same time three groups of LEDs were powered from the generator coils, which were a reduction of the motor load when the hall switch was ideally positioned. These bulbs were rated for over 6W total and yet were at near full brightness. One generator coil powered a blue LED strip and a 2.8W LED cluster while the other three coils powered a 5.7W LED bulb that is equivalent to a 35V incandescent bulb in light. So altogether the amount of light could be considered somewhere close to the 6W input from the primary bank. Three different outputs, the charging battery, the motor torque, and the LEDs amount for a combined output clearly over that of the input, if not three times.
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It gives you a sense of how substantive the claims of demonstrating over unity devices at the upcoming conferences are likely to be.  Notice that no output measurements are performed, what you get instead are whimsical-at-best anecdotal statements.

The three outputs:

1.  The charging battery - I have never seen anyone in the extended JB realm ever make an attempt to measure the power output from the pulse motor into the charging battery.  As Hoppy mentioned, the usual methodology based around measuring battery voltages is critically flawed.

2.  The motor torque - I think that we all would agree that "the motor torque," interpreted in the form of waste heat power warming up the air and the bearings is not considered to be useful output power.  In the strictest sense the "motor torque" is zero.

3.  The LEDs - The "eyeball power meter" is like a very drunk sailor in a storm.  It simply does not work, and then you need a DSO with built-in math or waveform export to do the measurement.  Rick did not do this.

So, pretty much a lame claim for sure.

MileHigh

P.S.:  At first I thought the LEDs were powered by the back-EMF spikes from the motor coils.  Rick says that they are powered by generator coils.  So in theory there is a torque load on the rotor.  However, we are already accounting for it when we the discuss the LED power.  You can't double-count by stating that there is a torque output (unmeasured) and LED outputs (unmeasured) because they are one in the same.

[Farmhand]

If the battery is reading 17 volts and it's a 12 volt lead acid battery then it is fairly well sulfated for sure. That means to get
the 17 volts reading takes bugger all power = fail 101.

I'd like to see Rick make a video of a brand new low resistance battery being held at 17 volts by his pulse motor, that would
be interesting. Test the battery with a CCA load tester to show it's good then take it to 17 volts. Bring it on. Wooohooo

People are more aware now Rick or they should be, or would be if it wasn't for the P.T. Barnum effect.

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[MarkE]

Rick might be gone for good if he feels responding here is a net loss in terms of his overall self interest.

He makes a wishy-washy claim of over unity on one of his YouTube clips so I thought a look at it would be interesting.

4 DualPole producing maybe 3 times output mosfet driven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPYQVOQCKVo

<<<
I converted an older 4 Dualpole motor from a year ago to run off of a smaller mosfet and be triggered by either the reed switch or a hall switch. I took a hall switch off one of the dc fans and used it. It was difficult because it was a latching type which requires the opposite pole to turn it off. So the on time of the motor was considerably longer than normal which created a much more inefficient system than the reed switch offered with the same mosfet. This was as expected. However, turning the rotor in the opposite direction and carefully positioning the latching
hall sensor switch on its side close to the generator coil allowed for a really good performance. The rpms and torque was desirable and would appear to be at least 6W worth of power (which was all that we were supplying--less than half an ampere at 12V. This 6W is based upon a later run of the motor when I repositioned the hall where it dramatically increased the RPM and reduced the amp draw.) The charging rate was fast as well. The battery was charging up to 17V while the primary was holding 12.7 around. At the same time three groups of LEDs were powered from the generator coils, which were a reduction of the motor load when the hall switch was ideally positioned. These bulbs were rated for over 6W total and yet were at near full brightness. One generator coil powered a blue LED strip and a 2.8W LED cluster while the other three coils powered a 5.7W LED bulb that is equivalent to a 35V incandescent bulb in light. So altogether the amount of light could be considered somewhere close to the 6W input from the primary bank. Three different outputs, the charging battery, the motor torque, and the LEDs amount for a combined output clearly over that of the input, if not three times.
>>>

It gives you a sense of how substantive the claims of demonstrating over unity devices at the upcoming conferences are likely to be.  Notice that no output measurements are performed, what you get instead are whimsical-at-best anecdotal statements.

The three outputs:

1.  The charging battery - I have never seen anyone in the extended JB realm ever make an attempt to measure the power output from the pulse motor into the charging battery.  As Hoppy mentioned, the usual methodology based around measuring battery voltages is critically flawed.

2.  The motor torque - I think that we all would agree that "the motor torque," interpreted in the form of waste heat power warming up the air and the bearings is not considered to be useful output power.  In the strictest sense the "motor torque" is zero.

3.  The LEDs - The "eyeball power meter" is like a very drunk sailor in a storm.  It simply does not work, and then you need a DSO with built-in math or waveform export to do the measurement.  Rick did not do this.

So, pretty much a lame claim for sure.

MileHigh

P.S.:  At first I thought the LEDs were powered by the back-EMF spikes from the motor coils.  Rick says that they are powered by generator coils.  So in theory there is a torque load on the rotor.  However, we are already accounting for it when we the discuss the LED power.  You can't double-count by stating that there is a torque output (unmeasured) and LED outputs (unmeasured) because they are one in the same.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if one person showed up with appropriate kit that fit into their pockets, and another person caught what happens on video when that person offers to measure the "free energy" machine input and outputs properly?  What would happen then?  Would the machines live up to RF's claims and wow the world?  Would they perform underunity just as they always have?  Or would RF object to the idea of proper measurements?  In any case it might be something interesting to catch on video.

[TinselKoala]

Free energy machines are very shy and delicate. They have been known to break down and be unrepairable for weeks at a time, just when someone even mentions the phrase "Broadband power analyzer" .

Some of them are even so shy that they stop working just when certain _people_ get off an airplane in the same city! Sterling Allan is one of those people and has shut down half-a-dozen Free Energy machines just by the force of his presence in town. And he's a believer! The "Little Effect" is legendary. All Scott Little has to do is to propose an experiment in an email... and the machine stops working.