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[TinselKoala]

Dave is apparently so afraid of the results that he won't even do the SDT protocol testing _himself_! He apparently refuses even to acknowledge the existence of Observer Bias, the Placebo Effect, the truth of the Feynman quote, or the fact that there is a sucker born every minute.

Tell me Dave, do you have expensive speaker cables in your system? Do you have a Tice Clock? How about the wood knobs that improve sound quality? Do you bi-wire your speakers? If not... why not? The claims for those things have just as much user experiences and anecdotal reports behind them or even more, than the Bedini Clairifier does. Aren't you interested in getting the best possible sound from your system?

[conradelektro]

Dave is apparently so afraid of the results that he won't even do the SDT protocol testing _himself_! He apparently refuses even to acknowledge the existence of Observer Bias, the Placebo Effect, the truth of the Feynman quote, or the fact that there is a sucker born every minute.
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Dave should not be afraid of any result.

All advertising helps, even negative advertising. I would say in this case "negative reports" would be even more beneficial to sales figures, because people who believe in the "supernatural" like to be rebels against "mainstream science".

So, if "mainstream science" says that the Bedini CD Clarifier is bogus, this would actually be a big reason to buy one, just because some like to rebel in a harmless and not dangerous way against "the persons who think they know all".

Freud would tell you, that we all have a "teacher complex", that we all got hurt a bit by our teachers because they were such overpowering figures in our youth. And some then like to rebel against that "teacher" represented by mainstream science. I see that very often in the OU forums. Some have a really big "teacher complex".

TinselKoala you are (inadvertently) a big advertiser of the Bedine CD Clarifier. Keep on talking about it and Dave will sell many.

In my opinion, selling the Bedini CD Clarifier is not more or less fraudulent than selling food supplements. Therefore I am not condemning Dave and Bedini, they just want to make a living.

By the way, every day you should eat a spoon full of honey with cinnamon, your health and live will improve rapidly.

Greetings, Conrad

[memoryman]

conradelektro, selling bogus food supplements and health quackery are more dangerous; however, do you want to sit back and let charlatans do what they want because 'it does not hurt anybody (except financially)' ?

[conradelektro]

conradelektro, selling bogus food supplements and health quackery are more dangerous; however, do you want to sit back and let charlatans do what they want because 'it does not hurt anybody (except financially)' ?

No, I would like to expose charlatans.

But look at the threads in this OU forum, one can never shut up the charlatans and their self appointed apostles. Even after contradicting themselves over and over again, they keep up the silly game.

The same holds true in all areas of life. People just like to be swindled (also you and me, everybody at his level and liking). It is so much more fun than the ordinary. The "truth" is very boring and discouraging, therefore we need religion, politics, esoterica, cinema, television, story books and all the other "make believes".

Why are you here in this forum? You hope to find the extraordinary. Well, some will supply the extraordinary (as much as that is possible).

Greetings, Conrad

[MileHigh]

I watched the clip about the error coding system for CDs that Mark linked to.  It shows you how the digital bits are effectively scrambled by the error coding mechanism.

There is simply no way that the CD "clarifier" can possibly do anything.  And Rick was closely associated with JB for years, including years when JB was selling this quackery.  He is still selling it.

Dual Beam?  Quad beam?  Ultra beam?  Does that give you good, better, best sound quality?

I wish that somebody would rip it apart and reverse engineer it and then post some videos.  Typically you need to clip off the potting compound very carefully with a pair of pliers, it could possibly be a lot of work.  Anyone considering doing this should check about the legality of YouTube teardown videos lest they incur the wrath of JB.  I seem to recall seeing people doing iPhone teardown videos, as an example.

What would you find inside?   I can safely predict that you will not see any "beam technology apparatus."   Perhaps just a motor and a fifty-cent 4-bit microcontroller to check for the button push and then switch on the transistor to turn on the drive motor.  There might be a token kitchen counter magnet or two embedded in the potting compound to feign like the magnets are there to support the "beam" technology.

There is no honour in selling snake oil to gullible audiophiles.