Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[EMJunkie]

  I asked my dog if I should attempt a build, she said-
Can you do accurate pin-pout measurements?
Can you show an actual change in one or more parameters?
  (Remember that silly thing with Mondrasek, Mathematical analysis of an ideal  ZED
   it was all over on page two but festered on for another 180 pages)
  Can you see free energy anywhere in nature, the Sun is losing 4 million metic tons
  a second to radiation let alone a great deal more to solar wind.
  Could it be dark energy? Answer that one and you'll please a whole bunch of
   scientists.
    Then she went back to sleep by the fire!
               John.

Hi John,

I first got interested at 17, now I am 41. Its a long time to have a "Hobby"! 

I used to wind Coils and stuff as a Kid for various people, Uncle's and so on. I seemed to know quite a few people in the Radio/Electronics area.

My point is, for only a few dollars (20 or so) a little bit of time, one can start seeing some pretty cool things.

If I told you how much I have spent on convoluted unnecessary Experiments over the years you would not believe me!

If I had the leg up, and listened, then I could have saved my self a lot of money and Time!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

[hanon]

Hi,

I am really enthusiatic with this project because I see that this bucking coils concept is embedded into many designs of overunity devices.

In Chris website, hyiq.org, he posted a long video (45 min.) about the Bill Alek prototype (Auroratek). I have extracted here the most important minute of that video. Please see why counter-rotation (CW + CCW) compensate each other. Just extrapolate this into the Lenz Law of two secondaries in relation to the primary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcks2fcpHUk

Chris, do not worry about naysayers. As Don Quixote said: "Dogs are barking. Therefore we should be getting closer."

Regards

[MarkE]

Hanon do yourself a favor and learn about leakage inductance in transformers.  Once you do you should find that you can direct your experiments to conclusions that make sense.

[EMJunkie]

Hey MileHigh,

This clip was mentioned on another thread and it's worthwhile to post it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI

Many of the issues mentioned in this clip apply to what is going on in this thread also.  Probably the biggest issue related to this specific thread is that in this thread there is a claim of more power out than power in coupled with an active discouragement of actually making power out and power in measurements.  That is simply self-defeating logic that makes no sense.

I used to think guy was quite good! Now, especially after hearing: "I don't know, I have not built it" - That was enough for me!

Yes, this guy has some sensible information in this video, he often does in a lot of his videos. But, to criticise someone else because he made some calculations, but did not take measurements or even build the device is just very un-professional!

We live in a world now, it seems an arrogance has overwhelmed the minds of individuals. Yet one of the greatest minds in all of history viewed things differently:

It is paradoxical, yet true, to say, that the more we know, the more ignorant we become in the absolute sense, for it is only through enlightenment that we become conscious of our limitations. Precisely one of the most gratifying results of intellectual evolution is the continuous opening up of new and greater prospects. - Nikola Tesla

Moving on, just another comment about what is transpiring in this thread.  The claim is based on driving the transformer with an AC waveform and making measurements on the AC power in and the AC power out.  However, you have several people showing Joule Thief/blocking oscillator type designs.  The two circuits are completely different, so what's the point? 

There is a lot of learning, it takes intuition to see, if you like, whats going on!

In saying this, I did suggest early on, a H-Bridge or a Power Amplifier with a Function Generator as the signal source. Those that are experimenting will see sooner or later that this is a much better way to excite the Coils.

It is a learning curve, That's why I was not too excited about getting others to build and measure right up front. One of Ten Devices may work as I have said, so by keeping expectations low initially, then by making improvements a learning process will take place.

I have been doing this for more than 5 Years and I still don't know everything about this technology yet!

In a blocking oscillator type of design, you drive the primary with some kind of pulse waveform.  When the drive signal is ON, you are energizing the primary inductance of the transformer so that it stores energy.  When the drive signal is OFF, then the the primary drive circuitry is completely decoupled from the transformer.  When that happens, you have all of this energy in the transformer that has to go somewhere, and the only place for it to go is via the secondary.  Under these conditions, you can put essentially ANY load resistor on the secondary and the secondary will discharge through that load.  In other words, with a blocking oscillator type design, the concept of a 3:1 turns ratio does not even apply any more.  The output is of a variable voltage that depends on the load resistance exclusively, and has nothing to do with the turns ration.  Also, the output is essentially decoupled from the input so it is perfectly normal and expected that there will be no change in the input power when you chance the load on the output.

Not sure why this has come up here? Can you explain why you have brought up a "blocking oscillator"?

If you're comparing the Partnered Output Coils to a "blocking oscillator", I would not give the same comparison. First the Circuit is quite different, second the operation may be similar of sorts, but the way the coils work together are quite different!

However, the blocking oscillator could be considered to have similarity's.

So you guys have to decide, is this thread just another free-for-all that goes nowhere, or do you actually try to replicate the circuit and make measurements on it?

All of these postings were you say things like, "I added a load and the input power went down so we are going in the right direction" are claims that we have all been reading on this forum for years and years by now for all sorts of different setups and circuits.  This is nothing new.  If you don't even attempt to figure out why that is happening then it is meaningless.  There is always a logical reason why.   One thing for certain is that "going in the right direction" does not mean that you are going to magically pass the COP 1 barrier and make it past that point.

I know MileHigh, I hear your pain! I have also been around for quite some time and seen all the same things! The difference is, I now know that at least some of those claims may well have been true and correct! I know that the average Joe doing a quick 5 minute build on his bench, with no real understanding of whats "Supposed" to happen will evidently result in Failure!

Lets take Floyd Sweet for example, first unit, very crude, it worked and was measured to be of the order of 19 Watts, revision 2 was 110 Watts.

We don't know what Floyd had before this, but one can imagine, it would have been even more crude and less useful, but, importantly, it would have been enough to show concepts, to show a path forward!

Floyd Sweet has 6 Versions of the VTA before he died that I know of! The last one was 5000 Watts (5KW)!

Try to replicate faithfully and making power in and power out measurements all the time is what you really should be doing if you are serious.

MileHigh

I agree 100% we must truly explore what's right in front of our own eyes! With No Bias, with Open Eyes, with intention to one day succeed, with vision and direction, or we are lost!

Please, I ask you to ponder one question: "What does a Bucking Coil Do"

You're not a bad old Fella MileHigh, we got off to a very bad start you and I!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

[EMJunkie]

Hi Hanon,

I am really enthusiatic with this project because I see that this bucking coils concept is embedded into many designs of overunity devices.

In Chris website, hyiq.org, he posted a long video (45 min.) about the Bill Alek prototype (Auroratek). I have extracted here the most important minute of that video. Please see why counter-rotation (CW + CCW) compensate each other. Just extrapolate this into the Lenz Law of two secondaries in relation to the primary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcks2fcpHUk

Chris, do not worry about naysayers. As Don Quixote said: "Dogs are barking. Therefore we should be getting closer."

Yes, sometimes the intentions of others bring questions to one mind, but to do the right thing, Live and let Live, and carry on with the journey. Focus at the task at hand.

Hanon, MarkE has bought up a good point:

Hanon do yourself a favour and learn about leakage inductance in transformers.  Once you do you should find that you can direct your experiments to conclusions that make sense.

It is so VERY easy to do a few simple experiments! Like I posted in the prior post, a path will lay itself down. Just follow the path.

For around $20 a few simple experiments could change your life for ever! As it did with Floyd Sweets and many before him!

Ask Yourself some Fundamental Questions:
1: Were does Energy Come From?
2: How does Energy Manifest in a Conductor?
3: What are the Negative Effects of an Energy Flow?
4: What are the Positive effects to an Energy Flow?
5: How can we either eliminate these effects or encourage them?

All of which I have already given the answers to in my prior posts!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!