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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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penno64

@all

Please stop the bickering.

What Tinman has demonstrated solves in my opinion -

Lockridge
Magnacoaster
Kapanadze
Benitz
.....

It is all about what Brad calls shearing

From the outside, one can easily understand the disbelief.

Please remember -

its so simple you'll laugh

Penno



MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on July 18, 2015, 04:43:03 PM
I understand all that Mark,, but the question is, if I raise the voltage is there more energy with the same amount of charge carriers that can move.
Webby: I pointed out cause and effect to you.  You say that you understand, but immediately you are back to suggesting that effect is cause.  You raise the voltage by performing work on charge.  The voltage is the effect, not the cause.
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Can those charge carriers do more work when they are at a higher voltage,,
What charge carriers?  Are you talking about semiconductors now?  No matter:  You performed work.  The work if not dissipated can be recovered.  Your gas tank doesn't fill because the gas gauge needle moves.  The needle moves because you fill the tank.
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If you want to use gravity,, then do not let the weight fall,, it is that simple ;)
It is really simple:  Work -> cause, voltage -> effect.

synchro1

Quote from: MarkE on July 18, 2015, 04:04:47 PM
You have cause and effect backwards.  Voltage is no more energy than height is energy or color or width are energy.  If you apply work by separating charges, the voltage goes up.  The voltage changes as a result of the work performed, not the other way around.  This is analagous to changing the height of a weight.  You apply work to increase the height of the weight.  The increased height is a result of the work that you perform.  It is not the work or the cause of the work.

@MarKE,

What are you out to prove carrying on that way and trying to make everyone feel stupid compared to you about basics? You act like we need you to explain fundamentals because everything we learned on our own up till now came from Dummies. You bore the piss out of everyone with your tedious and redundant "know it All" malarkey. Get a job!

MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on July 18, 2015, 04:57:18 PM
@MarKE,

What are you out to prove carrying on that way and trying to make everyone feel stupid compared to you about basics? You act like we need you to explain fundamentals because everything we learned on our own up till now came from Dummies. You bore the piss out of everyone with your tedious and redundant "know it All" malarkey. Get a job!
I see, when all else fails just go for gratuitous personal attacks.  Nice.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on July 18, 2015, 05:05:25 PM
Yes Mark.

Cause and effect.

So I did something that caused something that had an end result of the voltage going up,, is that more energy or is it the same.
You applied work.  You stored some of that work.
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Can that happen without any more movement of particles,, bits and pieces,, things,, whatever you wish to label stuff,, between the two plates.
The work you applied separated charges by a greater average distance.
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Can I just change the distance of separation between the two plates and does that have an end result of more energy.
You have to apply work to increase the separation.  It is a portion of that work that remains available after you are done.
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Cause and effect.

What is an increase in charge.
You have not increased charge.  You have altered the spatial distribution of existing charge.