Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[TinselKoala]

@TinselKoala,

Maybe you should re-do your figures! Even so, if my Current Attenuation Setting was wrong then I still get more output than you my friend!

What are you, still around 80% 

A.King.21 will very soon have more than you have also! Like many of the guys over at OUR Forum!

Maybe you should stop, and start thinking how this works?

You are making assumptions, aren't you? I haven't reported any measurements from my testbed, have I?  And especially none on the "Stan Meyer" circuit that you just posted. So how can you know just what I'm getting?

It's easy to replicate mistakes like those you appear to be making with your probe hookups and instrument settings. I have no doubt that anyone who does it that way will get the same invalid "power" results as you... electronics isn't magic.

Why don't you publish a comparison: just a simple circuit from your FG directly to a 10 ohm wirewound load resistor, with a one-ohm noninductive resistor in series. Connect a voltage probe across the 1 ohm, and display that Vdrop on one trace. Hook your CC-65 around the wire connecting the two resistors and display that on the other trace. Use the same channel vertical settings for both traces, run the FG at 1.7 kHz square wave and let's see how the two traces compare. Be sure to show the channel menus so we can see the channel probe attenuation settings you are using.

[MileHigh]

Well after looking at the schematic and the waveforms I think I have it figured out.  The voltage waveform is not even the voltage across the resistor.  The voltage waveform is the voltage through a ladder network that goes right back through the +6.7 volt positive supply to ground.

It looks like when the MOSFET switches off the L1 current bangs into L2 in blocking mode creating a very high potential in the parasitic capacitive neighbourhood.  L2 never really gets a chance to get going full steam.  Then L1 runs out of gas.  The energy then turns around and bangs back into D1's capacitive neighbourhood.  That energy bangs back and forth between the two capacitive neighbourhoods in the ring-down.  It's hard to second-guess the mechanism for the ring-down but that's my best guess with only fair to low confidence.

But, the measurement is a wreck and a tangle for sure.  So I think that we have a schematic and an incorrect waveform set.  But we have no measurement crunching and analysis.  That's some progress but why all the agony to get this far?

I think COP 1.7 just lost its ninth life!

MileHigh

[gnino]

Hi my frequency generator is isolated from ground,so i can choose both configuration,which is the best for power measurement  and phase analysis?
Ciao Luca

[MileHigh]

Anyway, I hate to be a downer, but this is something like the 20th clue or incident telling you that this whole thing is not real and/or Chris really doesn't know what he is doing, no matter how long he has been researching this project.  So it is the Little Lost Sheep effect in all its glory.  The sheep were supposed to measure the power in and power out for their device.  Instead, the fence broke and there are Little Lost Sheep meandering around not knowing where to go or what to do.

This is a pattern that had been repeated over and over so it should not be surprising.  John Rohner supposedly designed and wrote the software for a spark ignition circuit for his alleged plasma motor but he inadvertently revealed that he did not understand how an automotive spark ignition circuit works.  Jamie of QEG infamy could not understand his own captured waveforms.  Wayne could could not string together three sentences about fluid hydraulics that made sense.

You note there is a kind of asymmetrical symbiotic relationship that can take place.  There are the believers that demand no proof or explanation and the promoters that talk technical but it's phony and they don't really know what they are talking about.

[Vortex1]

There is a small ringing pulse immediatly after the FET switches off (point C), this is the normal FET "switch off" ringing mode especially when leakage inductance is considered, because the catch diode is located on the secondary, clamping of the primary winding's ringing will not be perfect.

From the scope shots, the large spike and ringing (point E) only occurs after the forward current in the diode has decayed to below the forward drop, indicating a possible DSR effect.

One possible analysis, see my annotation of EMJ's scope shot:

A= coast time before firing FET
B= FET "on" period
C= FET "off" and normal ringing due to leakage inductance
D=Discharge of inductor energy, ramp down of current
E=DSR effect of diode (drift step recovery)

Another analysis might show a parasitic oscillation of the FET at point "E" (per MH)

We need to eliminate these two possibilities before proceeding to anomalous effects. Careful measurement of input and output power would be needed to verify an anomalous activity present.

Regards, Vortex1 (ION at OUR)