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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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Void

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 06, 2015, 06:25:31 AM
Yes. I'm afraid I am one of "those people" who believe that Akula/Ruslan/Stivep are hoaxers.  For one thing, they violate Conservation of Miracles... they have shown,what, a dozen circuits now of all kinds from big to small, and they are all different, and they all "work".  Now you've pushed my "shark" button, so here's a two minute rant and a four-minute video.

They have even published many schematics and yet no one has been able to reproduce their "self running" performance. I myself made a replication according to one of their circuits that _exactly duplicated_ the waveforms they presented at one point, and it still came to a quick stop when the power was removed. However that one would have easily run "itself" for as long as the one they demonstrated on camera, if I had simply gutted one of the electrolytic capacitor cans and stuffed it with three button cell batteries like AG13. Since then, they have apparently decided not to present any more waveforms. Another recent demonstration where the coil was taken apart on camera would also have been easy to do in the same way. Another one probably had batteries inside the potentiometer cases, which were inexplicably soldered into the circuit. Inexplicable, that is, unless they contained batteries. Ruslan is a radio engineer with a commercial FM broadcast station to play around with and he has even at one point shown off the transmitter room. Some of their devices _may_ be simply wireless receivers, some others have batteries inside, some run on hidden wires. Not a one has ever been tested properly by an independent tester. One excuse they give is that they have to be tuned by geographic location, so if they sent you one of their "working" models it probably won't work when it gets to you. Of course... since you probably don't live and work underneath the antenna tower of a 50 kW FM radio transmitter. Nor do you have the necessary hidden wires or faked capacitor cans.
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Hi TK. You have made some misleading statements above, so just want to correct a few things.
Akula, Ruslan, and Stivep are not some group which work together.
Stivep has previously translated some of Akula's videos, and apparently has communicated with Akula a bit, but apparently is otherwise not connected with Akula.
Ruslan has said he has not communicated with Akula, I believe, but has been doing some replication experiments with some devices that Akula has shown in his videos.
It is quite suspicious that Akula could have made so many different types of devices self running;  however, to my knowledge, no one has ever shown any
convincing evidence that Akula actually is using any trickery. It seems that any talk of Akula using tricks is just speculation at this point.

Akula has demonstrated at least a couple of devices up close to a few different people at his house, for which some videos were posted, and Akula has also
demonstrated some of his devices to various people in Germany. There are some indications that Akula may possibly have already made some money on some of
his devices. Ruslan has recently released some schematics relating to the Akula replications he is doing, but some of Ruslan's statements about his
devices seems to contain conflicting info with other things he has said, but as of yet no one has shown any convincing evidence that Ruslan is
using tricks as well.

Akula may be doping his ferrite cores with a radioactive substance for all I know,  or he may be using various simple tricks, but, again,
as of yet no one has detected such tricks, that I am aware of. If anyone gets a chance to view one of Akula's or Ruslan's devices in person,
besides looking for the obvious such as hidden batteries, or hidden wires, or hidden wireless power sources, you may also want to bring
along a Geiger counter to see if you can pick up any unusual amounts of radiation coming from these devices :) For sure it is
suspicious that Akula has had so many different self running devices, I won't disagree with that. Ruslan's stuff is also
suspicious in that Ruslan has made videos showing much of how his devices are supposedly assembled, although he has
left out some important details such as exactly how he tunes things, and left out some specific circuit details, but no one as of yet has been
able to replicate what Ruslan is doing. Also because Ruslan's statements sometimes seem to conflict in some ways with what he actually shows
in some of his demo videos, this adds more suspicion to Ruslan's stuff as well.

It goes without saying that any claimed self running over unity device could well be using tricks of one sort or another,
but until someone actually shows some convincing evidence of such tricks for any given person, it is of course just speculation. :)

All the best...

Vortex1

From VOID (prior post)

QuoteIt goes without saying that any claimed over unity device could well be using tricks of one sort or another,
but until someone actually shows some convincing evidence of such tricks for any given person, it is of course just speculation.

I believe a claimed OU device requires exact support documentation by the claimant and replication, and proper testing by other qualified and skilled individuals to be convincing, this is science. Documentation should include a schematic, exact parts list, and also should be accompanied by a detailed circuit explanation with a plausible hypothesis of the source for the extra energy.

Placing the burden of "finding trickery" on the "audience" is good for magic shows but not for science.

I say "audience" because the video offerings of most claimants is just a "show" for your amusement and most of the presenters use the same gestures as magicians. A video is not to be confused with truth or science.

MileHigh

Quote from: conradelektro on February 06, 2015, 05:05:35 AM
EMJunkie suggested several times to use an audio amplifier to drive the "partnered output coil" (see the above quotes).

Question:

Is it still a "good idea" to drive the "partnered output coil" with an audio amplifier?

Greetings, Conrad

You can start out by putting a 10-ohm resistor in series with the amplifier output.  Check your amplifier output unloaded and when you drive the circuit in series with the 10-ohm resistor.  Chances are the output voltage for the amplifier will be the same unloaded and loaded.  So that's telling you it's a servo-amplifier like a big op-amp.  The theoretical output impedance is zero within the limits of its IV output characteristics.  It's an audio amplifier, so it may be able to drive a 4-ohm load up to its rated output power.  Lots of this data may be in your spec sheet.  I don't read German.

When you are driving through the 10-ohm resistor with say a 1 kHz sine wave, you just look at the voltage drop across the 10-ohm resistor and compare it to the voltage drop across the primary coil.  If for the sake of argument the voltage drop across the 10-ohm resistor is equal to the voltage drop across the primary coil, then the impedance of the primary when driving the circuit is 10 ohms.  That suggests that you will be able to drive the primary directly with your amplifier.

You can also experiment with changing the load resistor on the bucking coils secondary of you feel that the impedance of your primary is too low for your amplifier.

So with a series resistor and some measurements you can determine the impedance of the primary.  You can change the load resistor to change the impedance of the primary if required.

Let's assume that there is a phase angle when you drive the circuit through the 10-ohm resistor.  When the amplifier is directly connected to the primary of your bucking coils setup, then the servo-amplifier will just "suck up the reactive energy."  When the reactive energy is being pumped back into the amplifier, the output of the amplifier looks like a "short circuit to the instantaneous voltage output potential" as the amplifier outputs the sine wave into the primary.

MileHigh

TinselKoala

@Vortex1: Please accept my apologies. I was not irritated at you so much as I was just generally irritated by this whole affair. Plus I woke up too fast this morning. The  bold text was a little much though, nearly as bad a shouting, early in the morning for me.

No, I'm not irritated at you. Your questions elicited critical information and I really appreciate your intervention. Other builders have been using mosfets, the schematic EMJ posted showed a mosfet so I built and tested with a mosfet before I saw the information about the HD transistor. It is most definitely not your "fault" that I did that. As you can see my circuit layout easily adapts to the HD transistor, since all I have to do is plug-and-play as it were, my socket fits both TO-220 and TO-247 style pinout spacing.

The HD transistor requires quite a bit more drive from the FG though; I imagine that folks with "normal" FGs are probably having to turn them all the way up to get much action from their transistors, and as you and I have both noted the transistor in EMJ's scopeshots is underdriven.

The NTE substitution for 2sd1555... that's pretty funny. As you know, NTE components are often "Generic" in the sense that they may match several different part numbers for replacement. I wonder how specific the NTE equivalent is, or if it also matches several different HD transistors. I suppose you saw my post earlier about the lot of 13 actual 2sd1555 transistors on EBay for about 16 dollars including shipping in USA. I can't afford it myself and I have no idea what I'd do with thirteen of the things anyway but I'd definitely accept one or two as a "donation" if someone buys that lot and sends them out to "replicators" !  But frankly I doubt that it would make a discernible difference compared to the 2sd2539 that I am currently using. No doubt you have looked at the data sheet I attached earlier; the two transistors are very similar in almost every parameter.  Wouldn't it be hilarious if the NTE part was listed as a replacement for this transistor as well!

I have now made a stand-alone oscillator for the circuit, using a 555 timer tuned to provide approx. symmetrical positive-going squarewave at around 1.7 kHz, powered by the supply to the main board. Someone on OUR suggested this and used an online calculator to find the timing component values. I was suspicious about whether the 555 could source enough current to drive the transistor in my configuration, but it turns out that it can, in spades. (NE555P variant).  This eliminates the need for the FG if one is happy operating at the fixed frequency. I've had an "adverse event" though... I think my coils are internally shorting from the HV produced when the transistor is fully driven and making maximum spikes. I have a video that I'm processing now that shows what I'm talking about. It will be ready to view in a few minutes, and I'll post the link when it is done.

ETA: The new video is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLsYULBKvXA

TinselKoala

Quote from: Void on February 06, 2015, 10:14:45 AM
Hi TK. You have made some misleading statements above, so just want to correct a few things.
(snip)

I am aware of everything you stated in your post. I do think that the association between the three of them may be tighter than you think, though. And I disagree with your conclusion: they must be assumed to be faking until properly proven otherwise, and the videos and visits and demonstrations, every one of them, have problems that make them unconvincing. As long as it is easier to fake what they are showing (easily done) than it is for anyone actually to replicate their self-running (which has been impossible) ... that makes the default attitude one of utter disbelief, as far as I am concerned.

But since you are in the mood to discuss this issue, perhaps you could tell me why my device, which makes _exactly_ the same scope traces as the one Akula demonstrated, does not "run itself" when the power is disconnected,  but runs along for a while on the charged supercap, and would run for hours on a couple of small batteries stuffed into a capacitor can. How can a device make the same scope traces as a "self runner" but not run itself too? The only explanation I can think of that covers all the actual _facts_ is that that device was faked, either by batteries in cap can or even perhaps by thin wires invisible on the dark video he presented.