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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: Void on February 06, 2015, 01:44:25 PM
Hi MarkE. I am convinced that if EMJ had simply just opened a thread and stated that he has been experimenting with
some interesting effects which he thinks may have some potential in regards to achieving over unity, then there likely would not
have been such an uproar and all the personal attacks and cheap shots against him by some here. We live and learn.
It is a good idea to tread carefully and use some tact when you may potentially be stepping on other people's dearly held beliefs. :D
I do agree with others that EMJ has not shown enough to make me personally think that he really did measure OU, as
there are so many potential ways for measurement error to creep in. IMO it is a very good idea to be very cautious about any measurements
before even thinking of claiming OU. Always the best to see if you can self loop a device before attempting to draw any conclusions
about OU. Making measurement errors or overlooking certain important factors is just too easy to do. :)
All the best...
EMJ chose to behave exactly as he has:  offer a boisterous and specific claims, provide no supporting evidence, and even a direct expression that he was uninterested in measurements even though he was making a quantitative claim that requires measurement, and then misrepresent his set-up.  In short he's been yanking chains from the outset.  No doubt he is having a grand old time with all of this and the only people who are likely to be unhappy are those who took his BS claims seriously.  I think the whole thing would be funny but for those folks who didn't realize the joke was always on them.

Void

Quote from: MarkE on February 06, 2015, 02:52:08 PM
EMJ chose to behave exactly as he has:  offer a boisterous and specific claims, provide no supporting evidence, and even a direct expression that he was uninterested in measurements even though he was making a quantitative claim that requires measurement, and then misrepresent his set-up.  In short he's been yanking chains from the outset.  No doubt he is having a grand old time with all of this and the only people who are likely to be unhappy are those who took his BS claims seriously.  I think the whole thing would be funny but for those folks who didn't realize the joke was always on them.

Hi MarkE. You see deceitful intentions, I see what is probably just some over enthusiasm and jumping the gun a bit.
I have certainly seen nothing much at all that warrants all the accusations and insults, etc. ;)  Sometimes people may be a bit too
quick to jump to conclusions and may make a claim or two that they may not actually be able to back up. This is certainly not a big deal,
and it happens all the time in this world. IMO, there sure seem to be a lot of uptight around here who could probably stand to learn
how to relax more.  :)
All the best...


TinselKoala

Scoposcopy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Fo-WxUiNA

(I found the shorting problem in the coils, rewound the primary with better isolation, but now the L3 coil is making like an ozone generator and showing corona inside the windings. That's what I get for using used wire from a TV deflection yoke, I guess. Will have to rebuild the whole coil set with better quality wire and proper HV isolation technique.)

minnie




   EMJ was proffered advice from several competent members of this forum.
Everything offered was easily verifiable with a few clicks, he chose to act
the way he did, to storm off, only to return.
    Hopefully he'll have learned to have respect for those that patiently try and
"Poyntt" him in the right direction.
               John'

conradelektro

I did a test with a 1 Ohm resistor R1 in series with the primary.

The circuit diagram can be seen here:
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg437101/#msg437101

Input:

200 mV 600 Hz sine from function generator
14 V ~40 mA idle and with load from power supply:

Va = 3.8
Vp = 3.8
R1 = 1 Ohm
I = (Va - Vp) / R1 = 48 mA (with scope math function) 37 mA with DMM

Watt through primary = I * Vp = 0.037 * 3.8 = 140 mW DMM, 180 mW scope math

Output:

Vo = 0.2
R2 = 10 Ohm
Io = Vo / R2 = 0.2  / 10 = 0.02

Watt through secondary or R2 = Io * Vo = 0.2 * 0.02 = 4 mW

It confirms that the primary has a high impedance if the partnered output coils are "bucking". Note, that I fed 14 Volt from the power supply and that the current through the 1 Ohm resistor R1 is a bit difficult to measure. The scope math function shows ~48 mA and my Digital Multimeter about 37 mA (at 600 Hz it might not be accurate).

It is a good control measurement with a plausible result in comparison with earlier results (r1 = 10 Ohm, R1 = 100 Ohm), see here:
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg437101/#msg437101


This is the audio amplifier:
http://www.conrad.at/ce/de/product/117560/Kemo-Verstaerker-Modul-M032N-Baustein-6-16-VDC-Ausgangsleistung-12-W
Technical data:
Operating voltage: 8 - 16 V/DC | Current consumption: max. 800 mA | Input sensitivity: < 80 mV | Loudspeaker connection: 4 - 16 ohm | Music power: max. 12 W with 16 V at a 4 ohm loudspeaker | Frequency response: approx. 40 - 20.000 Hz | Dimensions: approx. 70 x 36 x 23 mm (without fixing straps)

Greetings, Conrad