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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 10, 2015, 01:57:00 PM
Would a sponge be a good example of this?  You pour water onto the sponge (power) the sponge absorbs all of the water until it is saturated, then, the additional water simply runs off of the sponge.  If you stopped adding the water at the saturation point, then squeezing the sponge will give you back most of the water you have added.  If you went beyond the saturation point, you will never recover the water that has run off.

Bill
Sort of yes, if you consider flux your water.  I prefer a trough cut into a sloping surface analogy.  Fluid (flux) collects in the trough (soft magnetic material) preferentially until the trough overflows (saturates) and then additional fluid moves as though the trough is not there.  IE, additional flux does not concentrate preferentially in the "saturated" trough. 

Eddy currents make a simple mechanical analogyare a bit tougher to create.  Eddy currents create losses in the material, so we never have an opportunity to squeeze the sponge and get some energy back out.  Eddy currents are phenomena that in a magnetic system act like friction does in a mechanical system.

EMJunkie


Saturation in Multiple Axis at the same time: INDUCTIVE DEVICE HAVING
ORTHOGONAL WINDINGS


One needs to think about Magnetisation and Saturation openly and not be confined to restrictive concepts and methods!

   Chris

MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 10, 2015, 05:50:05 PM
Saturation in Multiple Axis at the same time: INDUCTIVE DEVICE HAVING
ORTHOGONAL WINDINGS


One needs to think about Magnetisation and Saturation openly and not be confined to restrictive concepts and methods!

   Chris
If you want to see interesting off angle saturation effects study TK's Orbette videos. 

MileHigh

Quote from: EMJunkie on May 10, 2015, 05:50:05 PM
Saturation in Multiple Axis at the same time: INDUCTIVE DEVICE HAVING
ORTHOGONAL WINDINGS


One needs to think about Magnetisation and Saturation openly and not be confined to restrictive concepts and methods!

   Chris

I took a quick look at that patent.  I am not sure if there is any real value there.  However, there are no "restrictive concepts."  The fundamental rules of the game will not change in some sort of "orthogonal winding" transformer.  The basic rules will apply and still will apply here.

It's almost like the silly debates about "reactive power" and people making pitches like "my device makes use of reactive power, which is an untapped source of power ignored by mainstream science and the utility companies."  Think the "COP 20" device, Bill Alek, Thane Heins, and I am sure there are dozens if not hundreds more.

Forget "out of the box" "orthogonal windings" and "reactive power" and you may as well throw in "displacement current" while you are doing some mental housekeeping.  These things are all just smokescreens trying to mask the simple truths about induction and current flow in search of a "magic workaround" to give you free energy.  You are either looking at "alternative thinkers" that feel some sort of compulsion to ignore the basic facts and spin big fish tales or you are looking at criminals.

Chris, you need to learn the basics and then apply your knowledge.  Avoid the urge to fall for every Joe Blow's pitch where the claim is they have something new when it comes to magnetic induction.  You need to develop the skill set to filter out the crap.

A more recent example was on this thread.  Without looking at any numbers or measurements I can state the following with quite a high degree of confidence:  There is an effect where by beaming sound at a mechanical resonant frequency into a piece of ferrite you can measure voltage in a coil wrapped around the ferrite.  Now that might attract a small crowd of free energy researchers to see if thee is a new and untapped potential source of free energy just waiting to be discovered.  That's pure crap.  Chances are if you pumped 20 watts into a big piezoelectric driver into a ferrite core, you could extract about three milliwatts of power from the winding around that core.  It's an effect that has no practical application for power generation at all.

We all want "free energy."  The truth is that it is happening as we speak.  We are probably not too far off from the world's annual consumption of oil starting a long downward trend as renewables and many other creative ideas start to take hold.  How far are we away from the day where the solar panels on the roof of your home are used to "fill up" your electric car for its daily energy requirement?  Probably not too far away.

MileHigh

EMJunkie

MileHigh,

Don't confuse the situation, there is only one point I wanted to make, as stated: "Saturation in Multiple Axis at the same time"

All other concepts in this patent, are interesting, but not related, to the points I have made. Energy Pumping is done exactly how I have said. It hasn't changed sine I last explained...

Energy Generation is not the point of this patent.

New Vote, Vote as you wish.

MileHigh, you faired well, of the now six trolls, one other Vote in your favour.