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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on June 22, 2015, 01:25:36 AM
MH
Im not sure weather you read all of each post, or you just skip through until you read something you can argue against.
So I will say this just one more time
The meters are reading correctly.
No-I do not make claim of a free energy machine, as there are other items within the device that may be consumables.  Until I know for sure, then I make no claim of any free energy machine.

@PW
Will be doing so tonight.

I looked through your posts from the past three days and from what I can see I didn't skip through anything.  I interpret the unusual choice of word "consumables" as a possible power source inside the device like a battery.  Is there a source of energy somewhere inside the device?

If we put your mention of "consumables" to the side for a moment, then you saying "The P/in and P/out are definitive." and "I do not make claim of a free energy machine" are two conflicting statements.

woopy

Hi Tinman

After a good night and as usual during my morning shower i got a clik.

Yesterday i put a small neo mag on the shaft of the motor, and this was no good, because the shorting was much too long, and totally destroyed a part of  the about 50 volts spikes of the second coil and this decreased the output on the bulb.

So this morning i glued a very small neomag on the outside diameter of the plastic fan of the motor, so the shorting is much shorter. And i observed that by placing the reed switch at a very defined location, i could short on top of the 50 volts spike, which increase up to more than 250 volts. But as so far , i have only one magnet i can only short one spike per revolution and the other spikes stay at around 50 volts.

So now i have to find a way to short all the spikes, and see if it increases the output on the bulb.

AS my rotor is a 12 poles rotor, it delivers 12 spikes per revolution, so i could try to glue 12 small neomags on the outside diameter of the fan and try with the reed or a hall sensor.

Or perhaps use the generator coil spikes (before the smoothing cap) as trigger for the gate of a fet (or the base of a transistor) to short the other coil at the right moment? Your shematic seems to propose that solution. But if it is the case, i don't understand the location of the gate resistor, which seems to be on the negative lead of the generator coil??

I don't want to force you to answer if you prefer not to share further, in the case i will go on my way by the usual trying and error process, i am used to.

Interesting experiment anyway, thank's for sharing.

Laurent

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: a.king21 on June 22, 2015, 01:22:08 AM
Perhaps you can start at 14min 30 secs and then work backwards once you realize you are listening to the truth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03SIe2qUDDs

Hi a.King21 ,
is good ear this kind of declarations  of more "credible" voices, to make the ceptics for only one time think that nowadays there are no absolute truths and laws existing rules should be reviewed throughout our evolution; not to please capitalism
but for the sake of improving the quality of people.
We just start! This generation will go far!

The increasingly feel Society social unevenness that exists between the global population. And it is the "little" things that make the big difference in this new mindset. The power to question! Power to exchange information! The power to try! We only need to not stop dreaming, because when man ceases to dream the world lost its color :)

Thanks for share

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on June 22, 2015, 03:51:50 AM
I looked through your posts from the past three days and from what I can see I didn't skip through anything.  Is there a source of energy somewhere inside the device?



Lets get it straight MH.
There may be consumables-only time will tell. I am looking into it now-->there are those here that know this.

QuoteI interpret the unusual choice of word "consumables" as a possible power source inside the device like a battery.

If we go by what you and others believe,then there is no internal power source. If we go by what i and a few others believe,then yes,there is an inside power source-->BUT we dont know as of yet if it is a consumable or the source will remain full<--if we can put it like that.

QuoteIf we put your mention of "consumables" to the side for a moment, then you saying "The P/in and P/out are definitive." and "I do not make claim of a free energy machine" are two conflicting statements.

If we put what may be the consumable aside,then the output is less than the input. So we cannot put it/them  aside. Like i said,i am trying to find answers(behind this thread) as to weather the said items may be consumables. They are not batteries or super caps if that is your concern,and i know you wouldnt see them as a source of power,where as i would.

Once i have had my dinner,i will be hitting the workshop to make the mods recommended by your self,MarkE and PW.

tinman

Quote from: woopy on June 22, 2015, 05:04:05 AM
Hi Tinman

After a good night and as usual during my morning shower i got a clik.

Yesterday i put a small neo mag on the shaft of the motor, and this was no good, because the shorting was much too long, and totally destroyed a part of  the about 50 volts spikes of the second coil and this decreased the output on the bulb.

So this morning i glued a very small neomag on the outside diameter of the plastic fan of the motor, so the shorting is much shorter.  But as so far , i have only one magnet i can only short one spike per revolution and the other spikes stay at around 50 volts.

So now i have to find a way to short all the spikes, and see if it increases the output on the bulb.

AS my rotor is a 12 poles rotor, it delivers 12 spikes per revolution, so i could try to glue 12 small neomags on the outside diameter of the fan and try with the reed or a hall sensor.

Your shematic seems to propose that solution.

I don't want to force you to answer if you prefer not to share further, in the case i will go on my way by the usual trying and error process, i am used to.

Interesting experiment anyway, thank's for sharing.

Laurent

QuoteAnd i observed that by placing the reed switch at a very defined location, i could short on top of the 50 volts spike, which increase up to more than 250 volts.

Isnt that interesting woopy. Now what do you think would provide a greater magnetic field?--> a shorted coil with a 50 volt potential across it,or a shorted coil with a 250 volt potential across it?. If you use your scope with a CVR to view current,and the other trace to view voltage,you will see that they are very near in phase,and thus by increasing the voltage across the coil-(even if the current remains the same) the produced magnetic field during that short is far greater than if there was no short. An open coil produces nothing. but a shorted coil at the right time produces a very strong magnetic field. Now all you do is add a second field that apposes that produced field to gain mechanical rotation torque increase. When the torque is increased,then RPM increases when the motor has a load on it,and as the RPM's are increasing,the current draw is decreasing.Also,as the RPM's increase,the generated power output also increases.

QuoteBut if it is the case, i don't understand the location of the gate resistor, which seems to be on the negative lead of the generator coil??

Two things to remember woopy.
1-a transistor or mosfet can be switched on two ways.
2- When an inductor becomes open circuit,the current flow remains in the same direction,but the voltage polarity switches.

QuoteOr perhaps use the generator coil spikes (before the smoothing cap) as trigger for the gate of a fet (or the base of a transistor) to short the other coil at the right moment?

Correct.

Everyone is looking only at the electrical output of my device,and seem to be ignoring the mechanical output that is also there.
They also dismiss EMJ's shorted coil theory,and although he hasnt shown a working device yet,and he messed up the scope measurements,his theory is sound.