Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[TinselKoala]

While I estimate that it should only take a COP of about 1.3 or greater to self-loop a device, using ordinary converter technology.... even a "slightly OU" device should be capable of being daisy-chained (what minnie calls the "Koala test"      ).

Connect the first one to its power supply. As a load, connect the second identical unit's input. Just for fun, add a third unit connected to the output of the second one, and you can even add a fourth identical unit in the chain. Then take some output load measurments on the last unit in the chain. If the device is actually OU at all, this should be easy enough to do, and there should be a slight amount of usable excess power at every stage in the chain.



@tinman: Sure, EMJ has provided us with lots of elementary facts that were never in dispute, about coils, inductances and etc. These basic facts are covered in any beginning electronics textbook and are at the "ho-hum so what" level of interest for experienced researchers like you and many other builders.  However, he completely failed to provide any credible evidence, or valid theoretical support, for his claims of attaining overunity. No valid measurements... in fact, the measurements he did supply were clearly not done properly, and it took him a while to finally acknowledge his errors in using his own scope.  And he certainly never had three identical devices all running in a daisy chain, with only the first one supplied with external power.

[EMJunkie]

While I estimate that it should only take a COP of about 1.3 or greater to self-loop a device, using ordinary converter technology.... even a "slightly OU" device should be capable of being daisy-chained (what minnie calls the "Koala test"      ).

Connect the first one to its power supply. As a load, connect the second identical unit's input. Just for fun, add a third unit connected to the output of the second one, and you can even add a fourth identical unit in the chain. Then take some output load measurments on the last unit in the chain. If the device is actually OU at all, this should be easy enough to do, and there should be a slight amount of usable excess power at every stage in the chain.



@tinman: Sure, EMJ has provided us with lots of elementary facts that were never in dispute, about coils, inductances and etc. These basic facts are covered in any beginning electronics textbook and are at the "ho-hum so what" level of interest for experienced researchers like you and many other builders.  However, he completely failed to provide any credible evidence, or valid theoretical support, for his claims of attaining overunity. No valid measurements... in fact, the measurements he did supply were clearly not done properly, and it took him a while to finally acknowledge his errors in using his own scope.  And he certainly never had three identical devices all running in a daisy chain, with only the first one supplied with external power.

This is a case of sour grapes!!! Hahaha very funny.

Tinman has beaten you to the Prize Koala!!! How about you try self Looping your Electro Smog? See if you can make that work?

If it's all so simple, "ho-hum so what... textbook stuff" how is it that YOU CANT make it work like Tinman and others already have?

A "Rotten Tomato" alright!!!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

@All - Because Stefan has my Posts on Moderation, and is sometimes taking several days to weeks to moderate my posts, they will not appear in current topic!

I ask you to check back through the posts/pages to see if you have missed posts. That is if you wish to read what's going on!

All the best

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[verpies]

Connect the first one to its power supply. As a load, connect the second identical unit's input. Just for fun, add a third unit connected to the output of the second one, and you can even add a fourth identical unit in the chain. Then take some output load measurments on the last unit in the chain.

What if MPTT rears its ugly head between them and 1.3 is not enough?

[tinman]

What if MPTT rears its ugly head between them and 1.3 is not enough?

Yes.
Delivering maximum power at maximum efficiency from one device to the next would be a difficult feat,and may show a result of COP<,when there may have been a COP>. This could result in something great being missed. This could also happen when trying to loop a device as well.

The only true and sure way of calculating COP is P/in and P/out<--all of P/out,-electrical,mechanical,and heat.