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the Ferrocell

Started by pinestone, January 21, 2015, 11:29:39 AM

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Quote from: sadang on February 02, 2015, 12:46:50 PM
...what was the direction and polarity of the magnetic flux whaen was made this photo?

...I suppose if you will change the viewing angle the lines will change their position but will keep their spiral shape. So, as you come closer to vertical point os symetry of the magnet the lines will become perfectly symmetrical, but always keeping the spiral shape. My conclusion is the chains of nanoparticles have this spiral shape over, only the light reflected by them (or reflected/emited by the surface plasmons) change in accordance with the view angle.

...which means for me that the symetrical dynamics of the magnetic flux, keeps its aparent opposed symetry on both ends of the magnet, and in both vertical and horizontal planes.

If, I'm wrong please correct me, because I don't have a ferrocel, and use only my mind, knowledge and imagination.

In the last image you posted... And I again here ask: why only a single color on a line, when for sure at that chain or chains of nanoparticle arrive all RGBY colors? A future theme of study!

I see you emphasized two times until now the changing of the color of lines where they corss each other. I don't have an answer of this phenomenon and in my opinion it can be placed besides my question about why one single color for a line! I have in mind something related to the wave length of light and its interactions with the surface plasmons, but I have to deepen this subject...

You take too fast with so many messages...
Sorry I don't know what the polarity was. I wasn't taking good notes in the beginning.

And you are correct about ones 'point of view'. It's relative to the observer...hmmmmm where have we heard this before?
Ones view rotates around a center point, ie. spherical.

Yes, an undisturbed magnetic field is spherical (ball-like) and mostly symmetrical. Impurities in the materials cause the field to have irregularities.
A field from an electromagnet is very symmetrical, tho.

Your imagination is great. You've got a good idea of the 3-d field from looking at 2-d pix!

I demonstrated my Ferrocells at a IEEE Photonics Conference in California last October and none of the leading-edge scientists could explain how the colors mix either-
so don't feel dumb! We have a couple of theories, but I'm into experimental physics, not theoretical.
Once we've managed to get the same conclusions from different researchers, I'll commit to fact.

Fast? This is my life. I do nothing else but work on this project and right now I'm spreading the word...forums, twitter, facebook etc.
I'm getting old and want to see this technology take off before I kick the bucket!

sadang

If I do not get you bored, I want to continue this analysis.

QuoteYou can see the 'flux' spiraling up and over the pole and twisting around the center (Bloch region) where it's difficult to see clearly, but the flux continues to the other pole.

Hmmm! I see the entire phenomenon with other eyes! Even if this image is not too clear, I still consider it clear enough to have my own interpretation. Where you see the flux spiraling up, I see it spiraling down. Now let me to explain my point of view.

The light from the white LED touch the ferrocel all over its round surface, but hits the eye along the straight line from the LED trough the ferrocel, intersecting the ferrocel from the current angle of viewing, exactly in that point of max brightness. In the upper and bright part of the luminous circle, in that place where you said it twists. From that point it begin its interactions (reflections and maybe refractions - and don't want to talk here about the Faraday, Zeeman or other effects because I have different opinions even about these well known and proved theories) with the chains of nanoparticles.

Now, in my opinion, in this image we have two half of spirals, one being CW and the other CCW, both these curved paths being dictated by the general arrangement of the chain of nanoparticles under the influence of the magnetic field. They follow the same spiral path in a 2D projection plane (a helical path in a 3D view) to the one funnel at the end of the magnet. These can be noticed by changing the angle of view. The actual apparent circle will go down and will become symmetric around the magnet, if the angle of view will be set in the longitudinal axle of the magnet. The same can happen if will change the position of the LED. Is all about the relative motion of the observer relative to the source of light, and viceversa!

QuoteI'm getting old and want to see this technology take off before I kick the bucket!

A very hard task, in these times! The current civilization is shaped to think in terms of making profit NOW, and even from dry stone, without realizing that they steal their own hat! I'll try to help in your endeavor trough my limited possibilities.

pinestone

Quote from: sadang on February 02, 2015, 04:14:23 PM
If I do not get you bored, I want to continue this analysis.

Hmmm! I see the entire phenomenon with other eyes!...
...Faraday, Zeeman or other effects

...Is all about the relative motion of the observer relative to the source of light, and viceversa!

A very hard task, in these times! The current civilization is shaped to think in terms of making profit NOW, and even from dry stone, without realizing that they steal their own hat!...

Yes more eyes are better. We all see things differently and you may discover something we've overlooked. Relativity.
If you go to the website http://www.ferrocell.us/references.html there are published papers about Faraday Rotation, Zeeman splitting and other related phenomenon.
I put them there so people could see the difference in what I'm doing compared to what 'they're' doing.
There has been little research done with a transparent particle layer 'floating in a vacuum'. Almost all modern photonic and plasmonic devices use reflective and substrate-based methods.
Like the difference between a field of wheat and a school of fish. One is 'fixed' on one plane and the other free in all planes. ;)

From Wiki: "Transformation optics is a field of optical and material engineering and science embracing nanophotonics,
plasmonics, and optical metamaterials"   check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformation_optics

sadang

Quote... you may discover something we've overlooked. Relativity.

Maybe. It often happens to me also, to overlook certain aspects when I'm captured by and enthusiastic about a certain problem.

QuoteLike the difference between a field of wheat and a school of fish. One is 'fixed' on one plane and the other free in all planes

Indeed a big difference, but for sure to your advantage. What a deep truth you suggested through this comparison!

I will take my time (one week somewhere at over 1800m altitude) to read some of the articles from the reference page.

Could you please confirm that on the last analyzed image you used a LED not a laser? I ask this, because I saw the same effect in another experiment from you, but there you used a red laser.

pinestone

Quote from: sadang on February 03, 2015, 11:51:02 AM
...Could you please confirm that on the last analyzed image you used a LED not a laser? I ask this, because I saw the same effect in another experiment from you, but there you used a red laser.

We see what we are 'supposed to see'. There have been many experiments done with the eye-brain interface.
One instance I remember the most is a study done using a group of volunteers who wore a special type of glasses that made everything look upside-down.
They wore them for a few days and their brain made everything look normal again.
After a week they took them off and everything was upside-down! hah

Actually the light source in the previous experiment is a small incandescent lamp. 'grain-of-wheat' 6 volt dc.

I didn't use LED's in my early experiments. I used halogen, incandescent, neodymium, florescent and the sun.
Bright, diffused light will show the entire field as a sphere. Thin, narrow light will show a narrow 'slice' of the field from a localized point in Euclidean space (the source).

this pix shows the magnetic flux in a plasma from University studies. See anything familiar?