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Overunity Machines Forum



Motor/Motor Self Runner... A Hoax!

Started by Just..Sayin.., January 23, 2015, 08:00:02 AM

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4Tesla

I wonder where he got the video from.. from looking at the videos uploaded on that channel.. they are from various sources.  I don't know if MileHigh watched the whole video, but he does turn the device on its side while running.  Every video can be called fake.. that is useless input.. would be better if someone explained why and how it is a fake.

ETA: If anyone wondering.. I think this is the motor:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/261727209934?lpid=82&chn=ps

MileHigh

You guys are just unbelievable sometimes in your gullibility and complete and total lack of common sense.  It's shocking sometimes.  FatBird, you wouldn't recognize under unity if it bit you in the ass so hard that it left bruises and teeth marks for a week.  Do you think over unity is just springing up like mushrooms everywhere all the time and we are just too stupid to see it?  It's takes some Jow Blow to rewire two motors and the secret was under our noses all the time?

Those stupid little induction motors have probably been around since the 1920s and have been manufactured in the billions.  So how come the news is breaking just now?  Huh?

You know that the law says that sometimes you can be so stupid that even though there was no criminal intent or negligence that you have to go to jail anyway?  Some of you are jailbirds on common-sense life support.

I watched the clip and pondered it for a minute.  Then I said to myself that if he is going to do a bait-and-switch then he has to create an opportunity for a (nearly) undetectable discontinuity.  So then I said to myself that there must be a place where he removes both of his hands out of the video frame.  So then I watched the clip again.

And then, surprise surprise, starting at 1:29 both of his hands go out of the video frame.  Then all that you have to do is make the video full screen and use your brain to focus your vision so that you are looking at the entire frame of video at the same time.  At 1:31 you can clearly see that the image of the assembly takes a jump to the lower-right.  So there is your discontinuity.

He probably connected two blue wires.  There is standard PCB touch-up wire that comes in that colour.  It's 2015 and he is using a lousy 4:3 camera and the video is in 360P?  Any person that makes video clips with half a brain could run a softening filter on top of the entire video if they wanted to.  The entire video is soft.  You can probably buy a digital camera for $49 that has better video quality than what you see in that clip.

So one of those two motors is wired up to an external AC power source with two tiny blue wires.

How can you be so dumb as to believe that this is real?   The guy probably sits around with his buddies and a case of beer and they watch this and other sites to see when the gullible guppies will gobble it all up.  Some of you are just fish in a bloody aquarium tank (his monitor) for this guy to watch and have a half-dozen victory beers and a bunch of laughs the moment he hits the jackpot.  They may even have a betting pool as they watch the various forums to see which guppy bites first.

4Tesla

I'm not saying it isn't fake, but I don't see small blue wires either.  You would think the light bulb would reveal the wires if they were there.. I just want to know how they did it.  The biggest red flag is the blue background and always sitting on the table.  Now if they picked it up and walked around the room, it would be more convincing.

vince

Just happened to have all that stuff handy. Wanted to see if I could fake it. I must have tried 10 different capacitors and the best it would do is about .035 volts. Runs fine on line voltage.L.O.L.

Vince

mscoffman

It is fake because:

I've come up with five pieces of evidence that leads one in the
direction of him producing a fake by the method I proposed. But
these do come up short of being a proof.

The strongest is that if you cut away parts of the motor frame
what better way is there to hold the remaining parts of the frame
together then to wire them together with thick gauge steel wire
in two places as he has done?

Often the most noticeable part of the device is to deflect
your attention from details. Enameled Copper wire ages, so
shinny wire generally to me means; "recently constructed'. 

Often fakes will avoid doing something that would easily help cement their
case but...in this case it would be willfully connecting the two lamp leads
together independently of the motor. Then too he could stop the motor/gen
with his fingers while the lamp is connected and we would watch as the
lamp light dies away do to certain physical constants.

But the clincher comes back to where a miniature
Qmogen is going to get it's excess energy. It probably
not going to get it from static electricity, or ground
currents, and having it run like a magnet motor would
make them possible. So it's going to have to run
as a motor generator, motor synchronous-alternator.

Motors can run as synchronous alternators but not very
well as there are no field stability circuits. So this leaves us
with having the motor approach the generator rpm from below
and lugging.

So the clincher is:
   if this is a 8watt led bulb loading down a Qmogen implemented
   from these fans which are less then 10Watts. One would expect
   significant slowing down of the RPM of these motors then lugging
   when the bulb is connected. But using the flickering of the rotor
   disk ones sees absolutely *nothing* no slowing down of effect
   whatsoever. Also this behavior would be seen in light intensity
   which generally here seems constant.   Can you say: "Bzzzz't"

  It would have to be a miracle to have this circuit shown be operating
  as claimed. And so I will leave this one to the care of Sterling Allan.


:S:MarkSCoffman