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----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field

Started by FatBird, January 25, 2015, 08:32:48 AM

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MagnaProp

Quote from: MileHigh on October 16, 2015, 11:46:24 PM
World saved!...
Nah we're still screwed but at least we have free energy now in our remaining days. I take some solace in knowing there are other species out there like us, such as the bark beetle that consumes until there is nothing left. As great as he was, even Tesla stopped building his free energy device when his shop was burned down and he decided there would be no real industry use for his machine since it didn't spit out gobs of energy. Every single genius for one reason or another hides his free energy ideas either by giving it to wealthy people to shelve or just simply holding on to it until it dies with them. Just human nature. Still cool to see what he did with the magnets here though.

So I'm guessing you think it's some kind of galvanic chemical reaction between the metals that make up the magnets and the liquid he has in there? Once the metal in the magnets is eaten up, the reaction will stop? I'm rather ignorant on the possible ways to do electrolysis so I don't know if the reaction without electricity is unique or just showing the bubble vortex with no electricity is unique? I'll try this with some dirty alka-seltzer pills and see how far I get.

MileHigh

Quote from: MagnaProp on October 17, 2015, 02:27:03 AM
Nah we're still screwed but at least we have free energy now in our remaining days. I take some solace in knowing there are other species out there like us, such as the bark beetle that consumes until there is nothing left. As great as he was, even Tesla stopped building his free energy device when his shop was burned down and he decided there would be no real industry use for his machine since it didn't spit out gobs of energy. Every single genius for one reason or another hides his free energy ideas either by giving it to wealthy people to shelve or just simply holding on to it until it dies with them. Just human nature. Still cool to see what he did with the magnets here though.

So I'm guessing you think it's some kind of galvanic chemical reaction between the metals that make up the magnets and the liquid he has in there? Once the metal in the magnets is eaten up, the reaction will stop? I'm rather ignorant on the possible ways to do electrolysis so I don't know if the reaction without electricity is unique or just showing the bubble vortex with no electricity is unique? I'll try this with some dirty alka-seltzer pills and see how far I get.

If what you say is true, then what's wrong with free energy geniuses?  Are they all sick in the head?  Isn't there at least one single man or woman out there that will freely offer their free energy tech to the world to save millions of lives from starvation and prevent wars over oil and all that stuff?  Are they all little greedy trolls that hide their tech and die with it because every single one of them is holding out for money?

I have a feeling the supposed "magnetic fizz" is purely chemical in nature.  There is no rational reason at all to expect a magnet to split water just like magic.  Put a magnet in water for three months straight and see if it is still fizzing.

massive

Quote from: MileHigh on September 22, 2015, 02:29:24 PM
There is actually no such thing as a "north pole" and a "south pole."  They simply don't exist in real life.

"North pole" and "south pole" are nothing more than naming conventions to make it easier to discuss magnets and practical applications for magnets.

You don't believe me?

You have a long long straight wire with one amp of DC current flowing through it.   We know that there is a magnetic field around the wire due to the current flow.

So, for the case of the long straight wire, where is the north pole and where is the south pole?

I know that it seems counter-intuitive, but you just have to think about it for a while.  You can clearly see that there is a "north pole" on one end of a bar magnet and a "south pole" on the other end.  But then when you look at the example of the long straight wire, there is no way of defining a "north pole" and a "south pole."   So how do you resolve these two seemingly contradictory things?


^^^^^^ good example
this is just an example of how rediculous it is that in 2015 , people are voluntarily SELF bound to ideas and thoughts of people of the 1800s
those learned types of the 1800s never knew anything beyond 1900 . 115 years later and the ideas , thoughts and HYPOTHESIS of those people are forced as so called education .

HOJO = Howard Johnson studied magnets for 50 or 60 odd years , his work is more relevant than any thing any one did in the 1800s , it is at the very least more RECENT!!

maverick researchers are looking for anomalies , they have a human curiosity that you just cant find in most people . you could say it doesnt exist  :-\

laws of thermodynamics are well worth throwing in the garbage simply because they are a complete STRANGERS view of the world that THEY once lived in

people today still talk about horse power , the same people havent even seen a horse!!
whats a horse got to do with anything ?  nothing , it was never relevant, just 1 mans attempt at inventing a benchmark , 'the horse power ruler/gauge'

Ive got 'energy from the vacuum' dvd , theres a bit on HOJO , there is definitely something there where he says theres something . he devoted a large chunk of his life to that something , so did Floyd Pink , another interesting character

so for average born consumers which most of us are , there are certain people that are different and have a natural curiosity that can not be explained and they certainly are not bound by any laws of physics as outlined circa 1800-1900 , that would be absolutely rediculous foundation to stand upon.

the so called education system pins those limitations on young minds that never develope the curiosity

Im yet to read HOJOs book "discovering magnetism"- 1970 .  spintronics ... 

verrrryyy curious  ;)

MagnaProp

Quote from: MileHigh on October 17, 2015, 04:33:31 PM
If what you say is true, then what's wrong with free energy geniuses?  Are they all sick in the head?...
It's just human nature to want something of value in return for something you already have, be it $ and or acknowledgement that the something was yours to begin with. If you don't think you get something of value in turn, then you don't release the something that you have. It is absolutely a form of greed, self worth, what ever you want to call it. I call it human nature. This "greed" is more prevalent in some than in others. This "greed/self wroth" for some can simply be a self motivating force that we can go good things with and not just bad. Without some form of greed/self motivation, then you could release what you have for free, not caring if it dies right away or not, which isn't necessarily very helpful either.

Quote from: MileHigh on October 17, 2015, 04:33:31 PM
...Isn't there at least one single man or woman out there that will freely offer their free energy tech to the world to save millions of lives from starvation and prevent wars over oil and all that stuff?...
That person would live in a sea of people that have strong greed and self worth that would want all profits and recognition from it. So to get it out there that person would have to be at least as greedy and have just as much self worth to fight against those that would try to stop them. That willingness and ability to fight those that would stop such a thing, is the most rarest combination of them all. I don't think any such person has occurred yet since such a fight can't be fought alone. It's much easier to just close up shop and not release that something that you have. Net result being the same as from those that would fight you.

5 hour energy drink man is the closest I have seen so far. It remains to be seen if this billionaire, and others that may follow, are truly trying to help or just investing in other emerging businesses. I think desalination will be big business in 10 years. We'll see how many of these devices they "give" away or just how high they jack up the price for the water they produce. Even Bill Gates gives away millions to charities and holds patents for cooling the worlds oceans, but I don't think we regard him as the worlds savior.

Quote from: MileHigh on October 17, 2015, 04:33:31 PM
I have a feeling the supposed "magnetic fizz" is purely chemical in nature...
Acca mentions it may be a galvanic reaction in his video if I recall correctly. So he might just be showing us the vortex formation without electricity probes being used on the magnet. Maybe he can clarify this for me?

Acca is willing to share the videos and even the sources from which he got the idea from so that's a good start in getting it out there for those willing to do the hard work that Acca has already done. For that I do thank him in sharing.

MagnaProp

This is what I think north poles and south poles are. I think it's Ed Leedskalnin spinning magetic flux/ether field lines. He said they spin both directions again each other and equally. I think we get a current in a wire when they spin unequally when one direction is slightly stronger than the other so it becomes the dominate or relevant direction.

This image is what I think is attraction and repulsion based on the dominate ether flow spin direction. If they crash into each other like gears with hooks spinning in opposite directions, then it's attraction. If they spin in the same direction at the point of intersection then we get repulsion. I think when attraction happens, it sucks in more ether making the attraction potentially stronger than what can be achieved with repulsion. This could be in a short wire or an infinitely long wire or loop of wire.