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Open Systems

Started by allcanadian, January 25, 2015, 09:23:46 AM

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tinman

Quote from: Farmhand on January 29, 2015, 02:59:51 AM
Haha, I'm not arguing, there is nothing to argue a resistive heater is not a closed system. True or False ?

You over complicate things to try to look clever. When a lizard basks in the sun it is an energy sink. Clearly Free energy for the
lizard. Solar panel is similar.

Thermo electric modules ect. can be energy sinks. You must be talking to very unimaginative people.

EDIT: OK I see Tesla's Quote. disregard the obsolete parts of the following paragraph. My bad.
Care to explain your revolutionary energy sink idea, I know you will never show anything so how about an explanation to explain
the working concept ? Do you mean a "sink" like a heat sink or a "sink" like water flowing down the drainage portion of a kitchen
sink, but an energy flow down the sink rather than the water analogy ?

I think a modern heat pump achieves that end, it sinks energy from the surrounding medium.

I'm not trying to be problematic, I'm always interested in interesting idea's.

There is nothing to win or lose.  Only trying to save some young fella from going to his teacher and claiming a resistive heater is a
closed system.

Show me a truly closed system on a bench, one where no energy can enter or leave the system. Take a picture of it.

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A closed system is one where the output dose not reach the enviroment. As this systems sole purpose is to create heat, and the system is housed in an insulated vessel, then no heat reaches the enviroment -thus the system is closed off from the enviroment. An open system is one that can use enviromental resources when there there to use.

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allcanadian

@Farmhand
I think I jumped the gun in my responses and sometimes I can be overly critical trying to justify another perspective. My bad


In the fewest words possible, nature transforms energy into other forms which are not opposed by the original form entering the system. Nature absorbs oranges and spits out apples which is unlike anything we do. We simply pump the oranges from one place to another and we always lose.


Think of a tree, we plant a tiny seed weighing grams and years later it is a huge tree weighing tons and all the energy to do this was absorbed from the environment. What we do is burn the damn tree rather than trying to understand how it works and how to copy these natural processes which is called Biomimicry.


AC
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profitis

The energy-sink perspective is a nice one though as that is literally all it is,just a kink-flow of energy in the middle of the room.

allcanadian

@profitis
QuoteThe energy-sink perspective is a nice one though as that is literally all it is,just a kink-flow of energy in the middle of the room.


Maybe you could explain your theory to the best scientists in the best universities developing engineered materials like nano-conductors and multi-layered multi-spectrum arrays. You see the science journals and the investors clamoring to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in this technology seem to think you are completely wrong. The science journals are saying this is a leap in technology like nothing we have ever seen in the history of mankind.


Who to believe, the best and the brightest on the cutting edge of technology or some guy in a forum who seems to be stuck in the past?. I find it very odd that one person in one place can believe one thing and yet in another place another person is changing the world and receiving praise from their peers while investors throw money at them like it's going out of style. How one person can be successful beyond our wildest dreams while others sit in a forum telling everyone it cannot be done. The reality of it boggles the mind.


AC
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