A Practical Guide to ‘Free-Energy’ Devices

[Spirit]

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/NewcomerIndex.html

[TinselKoala]

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/NewcomerIndex.html

The page is wrong in its very first paragraph and continues being wrong throughout.

The source of the energy in waterwheels, hydroelectric dam systems and so on is NOT GRAVITY. It is the sun, which is responsible for lifting the water in the first place. The flow is caused by gravity, but when the upper reservoir runs out, then what? To complete the cycle the water must be LIFTED UP to refill the reservoir. Do you think this happens by magic, or by gravity? No, it happens because of the sun evaporating water and driving weather which produces rainfall which then runs down to fill up the reservoir. The energy comes from the sun, not gravity. The same is true for wind power.

The device which occupies another great section of that front page will not operate like you think it will. That is, it is nothing more than an offcenter flywheel, that will not produce a _steady_ output any greater than the steady input from its drive motor. Like any flywheel it can store up energy in the form of angular momentum, and this energy can be released at higher _peak power_ than the drive motor may be able to produce... but not for long, and the flywheel will slow down when it does.

It's simple enough, why don't you just build one and demonstrate it running itself? I know why, and so do you.

The solar powered lamp or solar powered recharging lamp is nothing new and it is basically the same thing as the Garden Lights you can buy for a dollar at the Dollar store: A battery, a PV panel, some cheap circuitry and an LED or array. We have people on this forum who use such devices every day for lighting around their homes.

The  James Hardy device is a well-known hoax. It does not run itself.

The Thane Heins claims are also false, due to improper measurements of ordinary phenomena. He has never been able to provide the necessary proof: A self-looped system. And neither has anyone else who has reproduced his work.

LTseung is a well known perpetrator and promoter of delusions. He claimed OU from simple Joule Thief circuits for a long long time, even sent out many examples of his claimed OU circuit to other researchers for testing... and his incorrect measurements were eventually tracked down to poorly calibrated Atten low-end digital oscilloscopes. Recently he has claimed that "money is no object" and that he could "Easily donate 100,000 dollars to WITTS" to purchase a 'working' QEG that would run itself. But he has not done so, because he cannot, because there is no such thing as a "working" QEG from WITTS or anywhere else.

The Charles Campbell system is also incapable of running itself or providing more energy out than in. 

Bedini... and a claim of 800 percent OU !! Now I am starting to laugh out loud! NO Bedini system has EVER produced any more energy out than input! There are probably dozens of people on this very forum who have worked with Bedini systems and not a single one of them, INCLUDING BEDINI, has ever made a self-runner, which would be trivial to do if the devices even put out 130 percent OU !!

Next you have another LTseung device which is also a case of bad measurements and faulty interpretations, which cannot run itself in spite of the large OU claims.

Now we move on to "simple permanent magnet motors" which don't work, and even SMOTs !! No self looping, no self running, power comes from "mister Hand" in every case.

Next we have another real device that scavenges energy from stray RF in the environment. "Free energy" yes... because somebody else paid for the energy, radiated from radio stations and leaking from house wiring electromagnetic fields. Nothing new here at all and certainly not free in the usual sense of the word.

Then we come to LTseung's poorly measured "FLEET" Joule Thief. There are a couple of long running threads on this forum concerning that fiasco, which is not OU at all, it is an ordinary JT and if you bother to do your homework you will find out the source of the mismeasurements. Lawrence himself doesn't even promote that one any more.

Next comes some battery chargers for which more incorrect claims are made like 200 percent OU. These aren't even worthy of discussion any more, since they have been done to death and when properly measured the "ou" goes away. It's very shy you know, afraid of things like oscilloscopes and power analyzers, and only shows up when DMMs are used to measure no-load terminal voltages of the "charged" batteries.

Next come the inevitable electrolysis systems, which also incorporate lots of nonsense and false claims. HHO for example. Hydrogen gas produced by electrolysis is always diatomic, and so is oxygen gas. Many of these systems "microboil" water between the plates and thus produce high gas volume outputs... wet gas consisting of large amounts of water vapor. Not a single system of electrolyzer-ICE-generator has ever been shown to run itself, producing excess power.

Then there's the Joe Cell !  What a joke that one is!  "The Joe Cell can channel this energy into the engine of a vehicle and run it without using any fuel at all." Right, and Santa Claus uses one to power his sled instead of reindeer !!

And finally.... the claims of Robert Hull. Stick a wire down your dipstick hole, connect it to some unpowered coils, and you'll get 25 percent greater gas mileage. Also a false claim, not reproducible under properly controlled testing.

Kelly's book is a great compendium of fails, hoaxes, improper measurements, false claims, with one or two things that actually work but not for the reasons claimed. Why don't you ask Kelly where he gets the electricity to run his home. Not from an ICE powered by a Joe Cell, that's for sure !

[Poit]

The page is wrong in its very first paragraph and continues being wrong throughout.

The source of the energy in waterwheels, hydroelectric dam systems and so on is NOT GRAVITY. It is the sun, which is responsible for lifting the water in the first place. The flow is caused by gravity, but when the upper reservoir runs out, then what? To complete the cycle the water must be LIFTED UP to refill the reservoir. Do you think this happens by magic, or by gravity? No, it happens because of the sun evaporating water and driving weather which produces rainfall which then runs down to fill up the reservoir. The energy comes from the sun, not gravity. The same is true for wind power.

The device which occupies another great section of that front page will not operate like you think it will. That is, it is nothing more than an offcenter flywheel, that will not produce a _steady_ output any greater than the steady input from its drive motor. Like any flywheel it can store up energy in the form of angular momentum, and this energy can be released at higher _peak power_ than the drive motor may be able to produce... but not for long, and the flywheel will slow down when it does.

It's simple enough, why don't you just build one and demonstrate it running itself? I know why, and so do you.

The solar powered lamp or solar powered recharging lamp is nothing new and it is basically the same thing as the Garden Lights you can buy for a dollar at the Dollar store: A battery, a PV panel, some cheap circuitry and an LED or array. We have people on this forum who use such devices every day for lighting around their homes.

The  James Hardy device is a well-known hoax. It does not run itself.

The Thane Heins claims are also false, due to improper measurements of ordinary phenomena. He has never been able to provide the necessary proof: A self-looped system. And neither has anyone else who has reproduced his work.

LTseung is a well known perpetrator and promoter of delusions. He claimed OU from simple Joule Thief circuits for a long long time, even sent out many examples of his claimed OU circuit to other researchers for testing... and his incorrect measurements were eventually tracked down to poorly calibrated Atten low-end digital oscilloscopes. Recently he has claimed that "money is no object" and that he could "Easily donate 100,000 dollars to WITTS" to purchase a 'working' QEG that would run itself. But he has not done so, because he cannot, because there is no such thing as a "working" QEG from WITTS or anywhere else.

The Charles Campbell system is also incapable of running itself or providing more energy out than in. 

Bedini... and a claim of 800 percent OU !! Now I am starting to laugh out loud! NO Bedini system has EVER produced any more energy out than input! There are probably dozens of people on this very forum who have worked with Bedini systems and not a single one of them, INCLUDING BEDINI, has ever made a self-runner, which would be trivial to do if the devices even put out 130 percent OU !!

Next you have another LTseung device which is also a case of bad measurements and faulty interpretations, which cannot run itself in spite of the large OU claims.

Now we move on to "simple permanent magnet motors" which don't work, and even SMOTs !! No self looping, no self running, power comes from "mister Hand" in every case.

Next we have another real device that scavenges energy from stray RF in the environment. "Free energy" yes... because somebody else paid for the energy, radiated from radio stations and leaking from house wiring electromagnetic fields. Nothing new here at all and certainly not free in the usual sense of the word.

Then we come to LTseung's poorly measured "FLEET" Joule Thief. There are a couple of long running threads on this forum concerning that fiasco, which is not OU at all, it is an ordinary JT and if you bother to do your homework you will find out the source of the mismeasurements. Lawrence himself doesn't even promote that one any more.

Next comes some battery chargers for which more incorrect claims are made like 200 percent OU. These aren't even worthy of discussion any more, since they have been done to death and when properly measured the "ou" goes away. It's very shy you know, afraid of things like oscilloscopes and power analyzers, and only shows up when DMMs are used to measure no-load terminal voltages of the "charged" batteries.

Next come the inevitable electrolysis systems, which also incorporate lots of nonsense and false claims. HHO for example. Hydrogen gas produced by electrolysis is always diatomic, and so is oxygen gas. Many of these systems "microboil" water between the plates and thus produce high gas volume outputs... wet gas consisting of large amounts of water vapor. Not a single system of electrolyzer-ICE-generator has ever been shown to run itself, producing excess power.

Then there's the Joe Cell !  What a joke that one is!  "The Joe Cell can channel this energy into the engine of a vehicle and run it without using any fuel at all." Right, and Santa Claus uses one to power his sled instead of reindeer !!

And finally.... the claims of Robert Hull. Stick a wire down your dipstick hole, connect it to some unpowered coils, and you'll get 25 percent greater gas mileage. Also a false claim, not reproducible under properly controlled testing.

Kelly's book is a great compendium of fails, hoaxes, improper measurements, false claims, with one or two things that actually work but not for the reasons claimed. Why don't you ask Kelly where he gets the electricity to run his home. Not from an ICE powered by a Joe Cell, that's for sure !

Love reading your responses! I agree with 99%. The 1% I am still unsure of is SMOT's (I can just imagine you rolling your eyes at this moment lol).


I would like your input on my thread regarding SMOT's from a couple of years ago - http://overunity.com/13819/a-closed-looped-smot-system-that-should-work/


Pete

[TinselKoala]

Well, it's the neatest SMOT ramp system I've seen yet, but unfortunately it still doesn't work. I can't add anything more than what LibreEnergia posted. I'd like to see if you've gotten any further along, though.

The energy to flash the LED comes from the KE of the ball passing the coil and slows the ball down very slightly at that point. If you make a sensitive apparatus incorporating some of the features of my "SNOT" testbed you could probably measure just precisely how much energy is extracted and converted by the ball passing the LED and get some idea of the efficiency of that process. Also you could know how much energy must be resupplied per loop to overcome losses and make it keep running. On my apparatus that energy that must be replaced is very small, yet no arrangement of fixed magnets that I or anyone else has ever tried can supply it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4num28k4EnA

Wasn't there someone who claimed to have a selflooping SMOT, carried on a long thread about it, including many insults against me, LibreEnergia, and others who were challenging him to produce evidence.... and then disappeared?
Oh yes... that was elecar.

http://overunity.com/13879/building-a-self-looping-smot/nowap/

And that was the inspiration for me to build the SNOT in the first place, as I now recall. And elecar even resorted to posting a FAKED video, which is still preserved here, thanks to LibreEnergia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIL_MiuFmHE

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Quote frm poit:'The 1% I am still unsure of is SMOT's (I can just imagine you rolling your eyes at this moment lol).'

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Nobody as far as I'm aware has ever tried a ball of nickel.why not a ball of nickel I say to myself.may accelerate an inch faster than iron enough to do the full circle