Are scalar waves BS?

[fritz]

Dear All,

I tried to compile everything I know / have heard about scalar waves into the following summary:
(Feel free to correct me)
Logitudinal/Scalar waves (sw) are somewhat near-field standing waves with resonant transmitters/receivers.
Near field means that the wavelength is in the same magnitude/order as the distance between both.
Contrary to hertz-waves which radiates in empty space depending on the characteristic of the antenna (which happens having a transmitter only) -
these waves only propagate if you have a resonant/tuned receiver. In contrary these antennas are tightly coupled - which means changing the impedance / load
of the receiver directly influences the energy drawn from the transmitter. In principle there is no transmitter or receiver - both can interact in both directions because
of the tight coupling. (tight coupled oscillation).
If there is some point that this even works with one component shielded (electrical or magnetic but not both) - than its because of the fact that in such scenario - standing wave - one component might be zero at the point of termination. The energy in this point is 100% electric or magnetic - and canceling out the other term has no effect because its zero at this point.
If you add the earth crust as third interactor (transmitter-receiver) - you end up with Teslas wireless worldwide power system. A (servo-tuned)  transmitter @schuman frequency can deliver power to another transmitter/receiver(interactor) tuned to the same frequency anywhere on earth. Once receiver is activated - a standing wave between transmitter-earth and receiver -earth is established - and dedicated power transfer is possible. So its about 3 coupled oscillators exchanging energy.
This might work pretty well in a scaled down experiment using 3 spheres - but I am not sure how healthy such system would be for the inhabitants of the big sphere/earth. It would change the earth electrical environment, weather, and whatever. This is the reason why "shutting down" Tesla on this project makes lots of sense.
Using this scheme for wireless charging is highly interesting because of efficiency...., or powering vehicles/equipment wireless at small distance....
Pls. feel free to correct me - thats just my "working copy" of what could be scalar waves.

rgds.

[fritz]

... getting curious about the trawöger pyramid - I got interested into dowsing phenomenon.
This is where I stumbled on this guy:
http://www.pimath.de/magnetfeld_der_erde/gitter.html
(sorry german)
Derived from the grid structures observed by dowsing - this guy assumes that the magnetic field of the earth has very tiny but existing ac component -
in the Mhz range. There would be pretty no way to observe such components as hertzian waves - because of the damping.
Otherwise it should be possible to get near-field interaction with this ground ac currents - using conductive rods and an electrosensitive human operating them.
So the dowser would act as resonant receiver - establishing a scalar wave between the grid current  and the rods.
There are some folks which developed/sell hartmann grid detectors:
http://www.viviss.si/download/viviss/ZBORNIK%20MGB/Jurgec_paper_79_87.pdf
Because the FM wavelength is about 3m - its not impossible to get some scalar compound with an FM transmitter - .
In the described setup - the power of the fm receiver should vary in presence of such hartmann line - This could be explained by a scalar fm component interacting with the gridline.
Based on theses studies - I expect Mr. Trawögers pyramid as such servo-tuned resonant receiver - with the pyramid just operates as shielding - and the reactor somehow manages to establish a scalar wave with the grid system.
Well - this is somehow offtopic - but putting the pieces together - it would make sense.
rgds.

[Farmhand]

Probably Scalar means that it affects things immediately, like the two sides of a balance: scale.


Longitudinal on the other hand may be more descriptive. Unlike traversal waves, longitudinal ones are a plain vector from one point in one direction (like an ideal laser), or maybe only the direction / vector.


I do however agree that both terms are often used pseudoscientificly and for a wide range of things, real or made up phenomena.


It is certainly a rather  fantastic trip to try to do the experiments described in the tesla chapter of that "secrets of cold war technology" book, and Meyl is also rather "fancy", regardless of his Professor title.


Then again, there may indeed have been certain experiments by tesla in which he discovered some interesting things.


It is known that he was highly intetested in controlling the pulse width of high power, high voltage high frequency arc dis-charges, and despite the system trolls denials, it is exactly such a condition that leads to excessive electron avalanches with "stochiastic electron multiplication"  in the ratio of 1:12'000'000 per centimeter. Funny enough these electrons are pulled right out of the air, leaving a bunch of ions behind.


At least Lindemann and that guy of the mentioned book (I never remember his name) seem to think there is a relation between avalanche / breakdowns , longitudinal waves (tho tesla was quoted to have described them being of electrostatic nature, like the charge of a cap) and the ever disputed Aether.


BR




BTW. Farmhand, a question for you: When a wave needs a medium to propagate, like air or water, and since there are wavelengths in light, what is the medium for light in the cosmos?



Yet anotherone of those questions that none can answer without to question the standard model...

I say is the Aether, but that's too easy to repeat. A question foryou dieter. Do you consider space outside of atmosphere to
contain nothing ? Or is there something everywhere ?

I can only say for myself that light waves do propagate through space which is a medium or they don't because it isn't. Either
way light is present here on earth as a result of the suns radiations. I never stated that light waves travel through a vacuum or
that space is a vacuum.

We can have a light wave, an electromagnetic wave a human wave ect. all have movement, what causes the wave is not what
we call the wave we call the wave what is moving eg, a water wave or a sound wave or a light wave ect.

We can't have a wave of scalar or a scalar wave, we could have a wave cause by a scalar value of something maybe.

We can have a water wave or a wave of water. See my point.

It's kinda like the "generator statement errors" a diesel generator does not generate diesel. haha. It should be called a diesel
powered electricity/electrical generator. A wind turbine can be a wind powered electricity generator ect. .

A scalar field is not a scalar wave the entire scalar field is static. A scalar field makes sense a scalar wave does not.

I have seen no credible claims by Tesla of any OU energy or extra energy except those setups where he collects environmental energy.

I see no claims of OU performance from his Magnifying transmitter by him, in fact he clearly stated in court that his Magnifying
transmitter system was under unity. And explained it with figures.

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[dieter]

Yes, Aether. Nothing does not exist.


What it exactly is, that's an other question, but it is everywhere and also there where they say is "empty space".


BR

[Void]

Farmhand, see my comment above. It appears the term 'scalar wave' was coined because
a scalar wave is supposed to be some sort of phenomenon associated with 'scalar fields' It may be something like
an ordered disturbance or ordered structure/formation in a scalar field or scalar fields which either
can move through a scalar field in some way (for example longitudinally), or maybe which can act at a distance in a scalar field
without actually propagating like a transverse wave propagates. I am not sure who coined the term 'scalar wave'.
It would be good if we could find a definition from the person who actually coined that term.
As I mentioned above, Wilbert Smith used the terms 'tensor beam' and 'tensor energy'. Other terms
may have been used by others as well...  Wilbert Smith said his Smith coil produced 'doughnut shaped waves' which
could remain stationary or which could move as well. I don't know how Wilbert Smith determined the wave shape,
but he was into some very controversial stuff overall, so most people probably won't take his stuff too seriously, but he did have
a strong technical background.

It is also possible that there are quite different effects which people may be mixing up and including under the single term 'scalar wave'.
It seems it is all just hypothetical at this point anyway.

Does anyone know who actually coined the term 'scalar wave'? Did this person create a formal definition?
Was it Bearden who coined the term?


P.S. I believe that magnetic fields and electric fields are considered vector fields, and since a scalar wave
is a hypothetical phenomenon that is supposed to be associated with scalar fields, it is apparently not related
to electric and magnetic fields. The Higgs field is an example of a scalar field.
Scalar Field:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalar_field
Higgs Field:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson

Many people may be mixing up the concept of a longitudinal wave in an electric field, for example, if such is possible, with a
scalar wave. A scalar wave is not an accepted mainstream scientific concept at any rate, as has already been pointed out.
What Telsa and Wilbert Smith experimented with may be quite different than 'scalar waves'. It could be that many people
are mixing apples and oranges. Without a formal definition of scalar waves, it is pretty hard to discuss it, at any rate.

All the best..