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Are scalar waves BS?

Started by dz93, January 26, 2015, 10:58:15 AM

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Void

Hi DROBNJAK. Thanks for the video links. I will check them out when I get the chance.
That should definitely help in going through Meyl's writings.
All the best..

Farmhand

Meyl is buddies with Dr Keshe, neither is to be trusted, Meyl points to voltage on the receiver as a indication of OU and I have not
seen any actual transmitter input and receiver output power/energy figures.

I myself with my pair of 12 volt Tesla transformers transmitted electricity via a single wire laying on the ground from inside one
metal clad shed to inside another metal clad shed not faraday cages but not far from it.

I got an output voltage of 24 volts with a small load (more than Meyl's 3 mm LED's) with only 12 volts input. Voltage magnification
is not OU. My setup could have been greatly improved with a few modifications and got much better efficiency but it would still
have been under unity and no need for "scalar waves" as the connecting wire is how the energy is transmitted. The receiver coil
could have been in a faraday cage and it would still work because the wire goes from transmitter to receiver. In Tesla's World
system the Earth would be the conductor replacing the wire in mine and Meyls experiments and the earth itself would be included
in the resonating circuit as with my experiment the setup was tuned to include the wire but rather than having two current nodes one at each transformer ground plate as in Tesla's arrangement mine and Meyl's setups has one current node somewhere on the
connecting wire. For a grounded system to work it would need to operate at some harmonic of the Earths resonant frequency
and enough energy would need to be input to cause a resonant rise on the receiver when tuned.

One of my experiments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1nfWnjufZo

Meyls experiments and claims are unimpressive to me.

Can I claim to have produced scalar waves because I can shield the receiver terminal and still receive energy from the transmitter ?
No of course not.

It's not a radio the, terminal is not a radio antenna it's an elevated capacitance, shielding it by line of sight from the transmitter terminal is a ruse.

Meyl has confused himself with the numbers so much he cannot see what is actually happening right in front of him. Or he is a scammer like Keshe. His kits are way overpriced.
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And before anyone harps on me about the quality of my demonstration I would remind them that I am not trying to sell anything.
It was a simple quick demonstration to show I can do what Meyl can do. If his demo is watched closely I can see he demo is flawed. And he gives no power in out or energy in to out to be able to claim anything much at all.

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Void

Hi Farmhand. Nice experiment. It is a given that voltage magnification is not necessarily indicative of a power gain, let alone OU.
I haven't seen any video of Meyl's where he demonstrates measuring OU, so I can't really comment on that, but anyone can
potentially make measurement errors, even professors. I would have to know all the details about how they did
their measurements before I could draw any conclusion one way or the other about whether they really measured OU
or not. That is separate from Meyl's concept of scalar waves however. As I mentioned previously, I personally don't
know if there is such a thing as scalar waves or not, and I think a person would have to be quite good at advanced math
to be able to evaluate Meyl's mathematical analysis. I personally am not able to comment on his math.
All the best...


DROBNJAK

I wouldn't go that far to discount Dr. Meyl's results.

He has a Doctor degree, so he won't be talking BS easily. In addition to that he is a professor at a very reputable university in Germany. He devoted his professional life to EE. He would be well aware of all the pros and cons, as well as engineering details.  Not to mention that he has access to high quality instrumentation. I've seen a picture of the lab at his uni and they are loaded with Swiss made LeCroy oscilloscopes. LeCroy is just about one of the premium brands in scope market. He states that his students had repeated his experiments, even at distances far in excess of one wavelength.

Him using a voltage as indicator, might be just a logistic constraint, because he traveled from Germany to US to give that lecture and most likely didn't have a room in his luggage to carry oscilloscope.

But yes, measuring the input & output power is the biggest problem we face as experimenters. I thought of using DC motors attached to weights to measure the power output. But I need some advice here, because impedance mismatching can ruin the scheme.

Regarding the Faraday's cages, they leak easily. Metal shed is not good enough, despite valiant effort. A tiniest of gaps, in the Faraday's cage, is good enough to ruin the experiment. Here is a good experiment, about influence of gaps on Faraday's cages:

EMP Trash Can Faraday Cage Testing in Lab

Void

Hi Dobnjak. You are right that different load impedances can affect efficiency.
If you use a carbon resistor as a load, you can then do power measurements using
different resistance values and find which resistor value gives the best efficiency.
If you have a specific circuit setup and schematics that you are testing with, I could offer
some suggestions on how to measure input and output power. Are you using Meyl's exact
demo circuit setup?

Sometimes someone being a professor doesn't necessarily mean they have good practical
experience doing measurements, such as say power measurements. Even very experienced scientists
and engineers still make use of a peer review process to help minimize the chance that they have overlooked
things, or made outright errors. We would hope that Dr. Meyl and his students made proper measurements,
but still I personally would have to see all the details of the circuit setup they used and how they made their measurements
before I could comment on whether I think they might have really measured OU or not. Someone being really smart doesn't 
necessarily mean that someone is always error free. Anyone can overlook things or make mistakes. :)

That video on faraday cages was really interesting. He was using quite a high frequency of 500 MHz, which is fairly short wavelength.
It would have been interesting to see if he repeated the same test over a range of frequencies to see the difference.

All the best...