crystal radio: the first real free energy device

[gyulasun]

Isn't PS2 supplies the voltage potential - there is no current because the circuit is open (if PS1 is off )?

Hi telecom,

Yes,  (in the example by pomodoro)  PS2 supplies the voltage potential and the circuit is indeed open for PS2 so no current taken from it and this situation changes the moment you place an electron emitting source very close, this closes the circuit for PS2 and current will flow.  However this current comes from PS2, not from the electron emitting source: the latter behaves like a switch by providing a conducting path via air (or in an electric valve via vacuum) for the potential difference of PS2. 
In the video you refer to the sparks (whenever they occured) were fed from a HV power supply, all what the alpha particle sources did was to insure a conductive path between the wires when placed nearby.  Okay? If you have questions please ask.

Gyula

[telecom]

Hi telecom,

Yes,  (in the example by pomodoro)  PS2 supplies the voltage potential and the circuit is indeed open for PS2 so no current taken from it and this situation changes the moment you place an electron emitting source very close, this closes the circuit for PS2 and current will flow.  However this current comes from PS2, not from the electron emitting source: the latter behaves like a switch by providing a conducting path via air (or in an electric valve via vacuum) for the potential difference of PS2. 
In the video you refer to the sparks (whenever they occured) were fed from a HV power supply, all what the alpha particle sources did was to insure a conductive path between the wires when placed nearby.  Okay? If you have questions please ask.

Gyula

Hi Gyula,
thanks for the response, but its not that simple.
What the conductive path consists of ?- it consists of ionized air, positively charged ions and electrons.
This is what the current made of - out of the carriers of the charge.
So I conclude, that radioactivity creates current.
After all , what Pomodoro is trying to achieve with his experiments with the galena?
Extra current?
This is from the internet:
An electric current is a flow of electric charge. In electric circuits this charge is often carried by moving electrons in a wire. It can also be carried by ions in an electrolyte, or by both ions and electrons such as in a plasma.
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1LENN_enCA488CA488&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=electrical%20current&es_th=1

[Magluvin]

Here is a vid of what the guy claims is a super simple fm crystal radio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dStaIdMqCsQ

Tito posted it in the Energy Amplification thread

The guys that posted the vid is all about radio stuff. He has another vid of what looks to be a tunable fm crystal set, but the vid wouldnt load for me at the time.

Back when I was a kid, using a wood burning tool as a soldering iron  , I messed around with this stuff. I had a small transistor radio with the tuning cap in the square clear plastic casing. I soldered a short wire across the cap and I was able to get short wave, I believe it was, as the stations were not in english. Cant remember which connections of the 4 corners that I put the wire across.

Mags

[pomodoro]

Telecom , you would need to insulate the 8000v electrodes and accelerate the generated ions/ electrons through the field to generate the current just from the alpha. Problem is that without current flowing through the supply you will get charge buildup at the insulated terminals.No current! Discharging this 'capacitor' and repeating the process will take power out of the supply.

[profitis]

Pomodoro:'Its a common misconception that avalanche generation of ions is an energy multiplying effect.  think of it this way, one 4MeV alpha particle might generate say 1000 ions and free electrons in the air. Yes , we have multiplied the particles. Their energy will individually be a fraction of the original 4MeV. 
Now think carefully, what is so special about these  electrons and ions in the air anyway, a piece of metal has zillions of these already.  All they can do is conduct  current from a power supply lead to another, just like a piece of metal does every day, using energy from the power supply. They allow conduction in a gas, that's all they do.'

I think the guys who were reporting excess energy managed to get some sort of assymetric ensemble arrangement of potentials eg (chemical vs electrical) where there was localized negentropy of some sort(remember the papp guy).I suspect that it was by mere chance that the guys reporting excess stumbled onto their arrangements after fiddling around. I'm sure most of them had no idea why they were getting an excess or even how they were getting excess.