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LCAP Free Energy

Started by TheGeneralHackr, February 21, 2015, 05:19:07 PM

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TinselKoala

Current is not energy and a gain in output "current" doesn't necessarily indicate OU performance, unfortunately. The most suggestive measurement in the present data that could indicate OU performance is the climb or steady voltage level in the Primary battery. Even better would be if the average voltage of both batteries together would climb and continue to climb as you swap them back and forth. Even better than that would be if the batteries blew up from overcharging!

But just the open-curcuit terminal voltage of the batteries isn't by itself an indication of the actual charge level, or energy content, of the batteries.


Even a photo of the actual inductor used in the working unit would be helpful for the builders to see.A "small" photo, 800 pixels wide  or less !

Vortex1

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 26, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
Current is not energy and a gain in output "current" doesn't necessarily indicate OU performance, unfortunately. The most suggestive measurement in the present data that could indicate OU performance is the climb or steady voltage level in the Primary battery. Even better would be if the average voltage of both batteries together would climb and continue to climb as you swap them back and forth. Even better than that would be if the batteries blew up from overcharging!

But just the open-curcuit terminal voltage of the batteries isn't by itself an indication of the actual charge level, or energy content, of the batteries.


Even a photo of the actual inductor used in the working unit would be helpful for the builders to see.A "small" photo, 800 pixels wide  or less !

Agreed, and as we know, many are fooled by the warming of the battery during initial use and the slight rise in terminal voltage that can occur during lightly loaded or pulse load conditions , a battery chemistry speedup due to internal heat. Batteries have internal resistance, a cause of the internal heating process.

Stefan has posted this in the OU prize section:

QuoteHere you should only post , if you have a running device that you apply for the OverUnity  Prize

I'm amazed at the number of entries and none have gotten out of the starting gate. I guess none have read the rules of entry.

http://www.overunity.com/5707/overunity-prize-conditions-for-1-watt-device-pdf-file-attached/

http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/BatteryIR.pdf

TinselKoala

Well, this is the weirdest JT I have encountered yet. I've been playing around with it for a while and have discovered some very interesting things. I've changed the LED to a Red super-bright one, and I have _not_ implemented the Zener HV bypass protection circuit. I've been doing some scoposcopy. I may show a video later on tonight or tomorrow morning.

Briefly, here's what I've got so far.  I'm using one of the common-mode chokes with 3.0 mH inductance on each winding.

I have one scope probe connected to the "Secondary" battery connection but with no battery connected there. I have another probe connected to the Anode of the LED. Both probe references to the Emitter of the transistor (common negative rail for the circuit.)

With a shorting jumper on the 470uF capacitor... connecting a 1.5 V AAA battery to the Primary battery connector does not start the oscillations, nothing happens.
When I touch the Base of the 2n2222a transistor the oscillations start and the Red LED glows nicely. The probe on the Secondary Batt. connector shows positive going spikes of 85-90 volts, very narrow, and the probe on the Anode of the LED shows an elevation of about 3V over baseline and _negative_ going spikes of 80 V or so. Also very narrow. The LED is on because of the nearly 100 percent duty cycle HI of the about 3V over baseline voltage. I think. This is all happening at about 11.6 kHz or so.

Now... I have a small power supply (HP721A) set to 1.55 V. When I attach this to the Secondary battery connector, the oscillations stop and the LED goes out. By touching the Base of the transistor with a finger again I can make the LED come on again... BUT..... here is the really weird part. The voltage indicated on the HP721A's meter jumps up to over 3V ! And this is also shown on the Scope probe attached to the connection as well as a DMM in parallel with the connection. This is DC voltage with no hint of any oscillation detected by the scope probe.  And.... the oscillations at the Anode of the LED are now a nearly perfect square pulse train with about 60 percent HI duty cycle at 3V, with only a little ringing on the trailing edge of the pulse, and about 7.6Khz frequency.

I have not been able to duplicate this with a battery connected to the Secondary Batt connection, but it works with the HP power supply consistently. With just a battery connected at the Secondary battery location I can't get the circuit to resume oscillations yet.

tinman

Well I should be home in 10 to 12 hours, and its a long weekend, so im going to join you on this one TK, as it sounds very interesting.

TheGeneralHackr

Here is the coil I used and a look at the design.