Overunity motor, part3, all 4 recharging bats reading at 1.400 volts now.

[MarkE]

Many many replications MarkEBeen there-done that-->many times.Incorrect. But dont stress to much Mark-> it had the best of them trying to work it out for weeks.
IncorrectIncorrectIncorrect-Circuit diagram is correct. L1 is not inductively coupled to L2. Tested at distances of 10 meters apart,and in solid steel faraday cages.L1 can be swaped out for a small ceramic inductor,and still opperates.

Lets see if you can work out how Mark,as it took some very talented people some time to do so. In fact,i dont think a conclusion was ever reached
Whats your guess,and we'll see how close you get.

I listed out the four possibilities and what each would imply.  If you have actual test data of a documented circuit including with pictures so we can see the "hidden circuit" caused by the wiring then we can analyze it and physics will as it always does, will once more prevail.

[MarkE]

Theres at least a dozen JT threads we can have this argument on, but its already taken place several times.
and replicators have posted their results with and without resonance. I really don't care if you want to remain ignorant or not...

A circuit that does not contain a tank circuit does not resonate.  The archetypical JT circuit is a form of blocking oscillator.  The transistor on time is a function of the E*T product required to saturate the transformer.

Also, Steven Mark has made public hours and hours of video of the devices in continuous operation.
Explaining their operational theory, etc.

No circuit schematic is just handwaving.

You try to say that the information I posted is "not related", but the simple fact is, they all say the same thing when it comes to resonance in the circuit. and how it can be used to increase efficiency. They are completely related, as the information pertains to almost every circuit.

They are about as related as black ink is related to the circuit function.  There is no resonant tank in the archetypical JT being discussed.  If you wish to discuss some other circuit that has a tank, then I am happy to do so.

To blind yourself to these facts, only locks us in the same place that brought us here.
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Besides the fact, the TOPIC, concerns the energy that returns to the circuit.

You keep insisting on this mythical energy that you have not shown to exist.

Which takes place on the back end of what you guys are arguing about. - So, you want to make your JT as inneficient as possible... ok, fine.
There is still some amount of power being recycled. So let's talk about THAT>

The archetypoical JT does not recycle any energy to the power source.  It draws energy charging up the inductor, and then dumps energy from the inductor into the load.  None returns to the power source.

Looking into Peak Energy Technologies::
I agree, the Peak Energy website is mediocre at best. and Some of their information looks hoakie.
However, Their technology is consistent with other power recycling, and in lines with the author of this thread.

Peak offers a PFC.  A PFC is not a "power recycling" device.

Also i contacted the mayor's office of one Kennedale, Texas - to speak with Mayor Brian Johnson. He was not available, but the woman answering the phone was extremely helpful. She says they DO in fact use the peak energy device in a few of their offices, and vouches that it "saves them money on their electricity bills". Also, she mentioned that they pay the company for this service as part of the city budget.

PFC's are widely used in business and industry, because power companies do charge businesses for power factors less than 1.0.  Analog power meters used by residences do not register power factor or apparent power.  The meters register only real power.  Smart meters can measure  apparent power and power factor.

Mayor Gerald Joubert of Forest Hill, Tx was unavailable, and their offices did not wish to comment on this subject, but referred me to their finance office, who states that their offices use 2.5M Kw/hrs of electricity out of the city's budgeted 11M KWHrs, they show no recent records of business with Peak Energy, but also stated that their search abilities only go back to 2011.
Couple dead ends, but next I was able to contact a Camp Gulf, RV / Campgrounds in Destin, Fl. he vouches for their devices, said they use it in their lodge, hes got one at home and he even got his sister to buy one.
The town of Century Florida had great things to say about the device. They weren't that expensive, and quickly paid for itself.
Looks like they're about $1500.00 (US), so I will not be buying one myself, although I'd love to see more about whats inside.
from the technical descriptions, it sounds like a capacitor bank, placed on the last breaker in the panel.

Automatic PFC devices selectively switch in capacitors to drive the phase shift towards zero.  they are commonly sold to businesses and industry.  Many power companies require PFCs for certain industrial activities such as welders.

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This girl in Jamaica is completely open with her technology, and it appears to be a similar concept.
capacitors store the energy "not used" by the circuit, to reduce waste. (pic added below)
Green Box Co., Kingston, JA

Whether she is or is not, the referenced article was junk.  A PFC is only going to save money when the power utility measures and tariffs power factor. 

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Digging further, it seems the "heat waste" salvaged by these devices, is a scapegoat.
Most proponents of electricity recycling are using this to get around the energy combatants, by stating the device reduces waste heat. But in analysis, there is no amount of heat, or heat reduction for that matter, to account for the energy consumption reduction by these devices. It looks like the "heat" argument is total B.S. 

When the power factor is low, there is extra heating in the wiring.  The wiring heats according to the rms current no matter what the phase is.  When the phase shift is large, the rms current can be several to many times the real current.  Once upon a time a power utility ended up buying PFCs for one of its customers because the power utility failed to account for low power factor from that customer's many computers when the power company engineered the building wiring.  The wiring caught fire. 

PFCs do not recycle electricity.  When they work properly, they reduce the reactive current that circulates between the utility and the premise.

If anyone can find more info regarding this --- it would help.

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greenbox

The depicted device is an "Airco Saver".  It is a control device that reduces the duty cycle (minutes time frame) of air conditioning compressors operating at less than full load.  It basically keeps the compressor off more of the time when there is lots of reserve heat capacity in the AC heat exchanger.

[Floor]

@ M.H. and M.E.

S. S. D. D.

Trampling some one's topic again ?
Tried starting your own ? didn't pan out ?
Ganging up as well ?

Are you guys really trying to take down the forum, or what?
Dominate a topic until the actual point being investigated is lost / misdirected / distorted

Paid to do so?
Being extorted ?
saviors of the misguided ?
other ?

No response  to the questions?  How typical of you.
How non communicative and troll like.
In the vernacular of the system, how agent provocateur like.

Winning at any cost eventually becomes a purely destructive pursuit.
We need not to be blind to our own actions and motivations, for the examined
life is not worth living.
.
People are watching and they can study anyone's posting history
like an open book.  People's intentions and motivations can become
pretty clear after a bit of this.

The joule thief is a device that resulted from some ones explorations
of the possibility of over unity. The very thing which this forum is named for,
but also some thing which the two of you consistently revile and vilify.
Why ?   

The joule thief, and it's intended purpose are not some thing you can change,
even with your relentless misdirection, distortions, confounding, and misunderstandings.

It's more like an exploration of the possibility of shaking some energy out of the vacuum, than  an
exploration of an energy efficiency device.  But this bold of an exploration is too much for some
people to approach. They are too conditioned by the educational system and others.  They have too
great of a fear of the ridicule, humiliation and banishment the can result from the mere discussion of
such a topic.  Unless of course, the discussion is criticlal or derisive.

              floor

[MarkE]

Hmmm, some of us are discussing technical issues.  You keeping lobbing ad hominem attacks, including with ridiculous accusations that you cannot support.

[MileHigh]

It's more like an exploration of the possibility of shaking some energy out of the vacuum

Learn how an inductor is as dead as a proverbial doornail.