Is Newton's Law At Risk?

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Webby,

I hope you realize Whoopy's replication is emperical evidence of a possible violation of Newton's law, and a sim is totally meaningless in trying to refute this emperical evidence.

You are wrongly inverting the process by putting a sim ahead of any new empirical evidence.  Or should I say, you're putting the cart before the horse.

Gravock

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Webby,

I would like to also add, in the free hanging test the device isn't constrained like it is in the flywheel test, so it has more freedom to take the path of least resistance as it oscillates freely in space.

Gravock

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Let me give you a small clue,, I have built and tested MANY of these setups,, hence why I said that Mondrasek could measure in the sim what I could not.

I also can change the setup and make an additive device,, that is you can bolt it onto an axle and nothing else and add a torque to the axle,, I can and have done lots of things,, BUT there is a feedback into the prime mover via the extraction of force.

You can get rid of the string and replace it with and arm or two,, if you set it up just right you can use a crankshaft instead of the one way bearing,, I have made lots of these kind of systems.

As a matter of what the heck,, I am right now playing with a variation of all these kind of systems,,  that would be all the ones I have played with,, and am looking to see if I can "break" the distance hook.

We can clearly see during the hand movements to simulate the oscillations that there is no feedback mechanism from the rotating flywheel to the unbalanced gear sets or to the motor itself.  You haven't provided one reference link to support your assertions that there is a feedback in Whoopy's replication.  Let me give you a small clue.  Your unsupported assertions are also totally meaningless in refuting the emperical evidence we observe in Whoopy' replication.

Gravock

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Well. then I guess that since you can oscillate the arm that is holding the gears  and get the gears spinning and that in turn will turn the motor means nothing to you.

This is a false assertion and a blatant attempt to mislead the reader!  During the hand movements to simulate the oscillations of the unbalanced gears, the unbalanced gears do not rotate around their own axis in order to turn the motor.

Gravock

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I wonder what would happen if there was an AC meter put across the motor,, no feedback would mean no AC reading,,   it is after all a DC motor.

This is another blatant attempt to mislead the reader.  By reversing the polarity, the DC motor will reverse its rotation direction.  Likewise, if there was an oscillating feedback in Whoopy's replication, then a DC meter will still show a reading that changes between positive and negative values at low frequencies.  I'm 100% sure that DC meter is able to keep up with Whoopy's slow hand movements. 

The unbalanced gears do not rotate around their own axis in order to turn the motor during the hand movements, thus there is no feedback to generate a voltage/current

Gravock