Rosch taking orders on OU Bouyancy device.

[MarkE]

Another bunch of cod's wollop. How can gravity be a conservative force when it's not a constant?

More rubbish. This is time dependant only,as gravitational forces change during the day. Do we live on planet earth here,or some other planet?

Gravity is not a constant,and thus,it is NOT conservative.

It is very disappointing that you do not grasp the difference between a conservative field and constant force, or the meaning of conservative even when I have spelled that meaning out.

No,a source of energy traversing one way is then transformed into another type of energy upon it's return on that same path.

It amazes me how fast the guru's here are to jump on some ones comment's,when working modles exist right here on planet earth that proves the guru's wrong. It's no wonder we are getting no where with rubbish like this being hammered into those that have great idea's.

You do yourself no favors with nonsense posts like these.

[TinselKoala]

Mark E'Gravity is a conservative field.'

Besides the point.we're interested in heat not gravity

So you think that white tube in the corner is some kind of heat engine? Sources and sinks. We see the white IR panels presumably radiating 4.8 kW of heat power into the space of the building. That means that at least that much heat power must be being absorbed by the white tube apparatus somehow, moving the float chain (since we know gravity cannot do it and even if it could it could only provide 200 watts or less of mechanical power), driving the generator and air compressor and eventually winding up as heat coming out of the panels?

Take three portable electric heaters of 1500 watts rating each, turn them on and stand in front of them. Feel anything? Now go over and put your hand on that big white tube full of water. Feel anything? 

I ask yet again: Where is the power supposed to be coming from? It has been clearly shown that it cannot actually be coming from gravity aka buoyancy, and water density doesn't vary enough over any reasonable temperature range for that to be effective, and the device as a whole isn't frosting up or even condensing water on the outside. It's made of commercial off the shelf items like the generator and air pump, chain and sprockets, and some purpose-built floats (allegedly). So where is the power supposed to be coming from? Clearly, it is _not_ a heat engine because there is no _source_ sufficient to provide that much heat power and there is no _mechanism_ by which any heat source could be converted to mechanical motion in the device. And it's not a gravity/buoyancy engine, as many different sets of calculations have shown -- the mechanism, operating at any conceivable speed, cannot provide more than a few hundred watts of power.
So where is the power supposed to be coming from?

[MarkE]

Hi Stefan,

It's not THAT big of a facility. I could easily conceive of myself getting the two readings one minute apart, at even a brisk walk. But with me, I would have run.

Do you really believe a company that big, with as many employees as they have, and all the volunteers at GAIA, would be together on a scam? These are Germans/ Austrians we are talking about. You should know better than that, about your own people. Maybe one or two isolated bad apples might be possible, but not a whole team of them. Doesn't measure up.

Here are a couple of photos from Ronny that give a new angle to the facility. It's big, but not huge.

I'm guessing that the plastic thing inside the 100 kW demo tube is one of the floats.

Do you really believe that 2000 years of hydrostatics is fundamentally wrong?

[MileHigh]

I'm guessing that the plastic thing inside the 100 kW demo tube is one of the floats.

lol  That white demo tube looks about as strong as a giant Styrofoam cup.

I have no idea what "the facility" is supposed to be, but it looks pretty barren to me.  You know that Australian guy that made the fake solar trackers?  He set up a fake "production plant" which was just a few tables in this big empty building with people "on the line" feigning making some of those solar contraptions.  Otherwise the place was empty.  It was a big stock pump and dump scam.

An output shaft, and low RPM...  Imagine the astronomical toque that baby must put out.  Any mechanical engineers out there?  It might require a steel shaft that's 5 inches in diameter!

[The Observer]

Hey Mark.. or anyone familiar with the physics/math problem being touted as proof that Buoyancy Tower can't work.
I have some questions.

I was in the shower trying to fathom how this might work
when a little song came into my head.
it went something like this.

hmm ~ 9 TANKS A PULLING WHILE 1 TANK IS FILLING ~ hmm

So here's my thought...

If there is a limit to the energy it takes to fill 1 tank,
   then there is a limit to the number of air filled tanks
          that together would possess the potential energy required to fill 1 tank.
              (given a movement of about a foot that releases a small portion of the total potential)

Since the apparatus must be started by mains power my questions are this.

1.Does the Problem start with the potential energy of the pulling floats and their movement when it compares to the energy to fill a  single float?
    (this is the logical place to start since this is where the Unexplained Energy Source starts)

2. Why couldn't X number of floats above the empty one ... possess the potential energy released through a small movement to to fill 1 float with air?

Thanks so much to anyone who can answer these questions !

Best Regards,
                      The Observer