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Overunity Machines Forum



Permanent magnet motor

Started by Jim36, May 18, 2015, 01:24:19 PM

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stoyan_

Anyone to try to build/check this one .

stoyan_

Changing direction of magnetic field lines through high permeability metal shield.

stoyan_

Sorry this is the correct configuration

sm0ky2

Quote from: guest1289 on March 01, 2016, 08:48:52 AM
   So many or most things that can be done with a magnet,  can be done with electrostatics.
     
   (  I still don't fully understand why electrostatic-motors actually do rotate successfully, I have reasons to believe why they should not function,  but I'll check the wikipedia-page and it's links   )


the electrostatic motor operates through commutation, in much the same way a DC motor works.
charge on one plate is attracted to the opposite charge, then switches charges, and is attracted to the other side

we current use electricity to make magnets do this.
there is not yet an existing technology to commutate a magnetic interface, directly.
(at least not that I have seen)
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

guest1289

stoyan_
I make a lot of  magnet-motor  designs,  but I am certainly no expert.

I assume the  2-joined-moving-magnets   are intended to  rotate in the  middle of the ring-stator-magnets
(  Or,  are the  2-joined-moving-magnets  intended to travel ( be propelled )  to the right-hand-side, or left-hand-side of the page,  or,    through the   ring-stator-magnets  )

Magnet-motors  always need a reason to move in a certain direction,  such as getting closer to another magnet. 
Your metal-shielding does create an imbalance,  but it should have no reason to rotate.
But,   the  2-joined-moving-magnets  could  have a reason to move to the   right-hand-side  or  left-hand-side  of the page,  because of the  metal-shielding.

Using ring-stators,   I wanted to design a  magnet-motor that takes advantage of the neutral zones of the ring-magnets,  to create propulsion.   
It would be pushed by the magnetic-field of the  ring-magnet,  while at the same time encountering no resistance in the neutral zone.     I think it would require  very-specifically-designed  ring-magnets that have much longer  neutral-zones,  or maybe even the addition of small extra stator-magnets.  (  and I guess the moving-magnet-component would resemble  a sleek-jet-airplane,   UNLESS,  I use your idea of  magnetic-shielding,  in which case it could look like anything )
(  The  magnet-motor  would resemble the particle-acccelerators like at CERN ,  but only in a very simple visual way )
The only advantage of a  ring-stator-magnet-motor  I can see,   is that the  moving-magnet-component  would hopefully be completely-levitated,  so that it should travel much much faster,   but the fastest speeds would only be possible in a straight line.
(  In my magnet-motor  designs,  I have used the  brick-wall-pattern( not identical to brick-walls ) for positioning the  stators,   or, by  joining  mulltiple-moving-magnet-components together,    to try and defeat the merge-points in the stators,   maybe that would be another idea for a  ring-stator-magnet-motor  )
 
sm0ky2
Quotethe electrostatic motor operates through commutation, in much the same way a DC motor works.
charge on one plate is attracted to the opposite charge, then switches charges, and is attracted to the other side

we current use electricity to make magnets do this.
there is not yet an existing technology to commutate a magnetic interface, directly.
(at least not that I have seen)

It's possible I described a method  "to commutate a magnetic interface, directly",  in my following post :
http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/msg473568/#msg473568

QuoteIt could be designed as a circular motor,   which just has 1 stator-magnet,  attracting magnets on the wheel .
      So, the single stator-magnet,  could have an axle running through it,  so that it could turn like a propellor,  and then using the  momentum  of the wheel moving( from attraction ),  that momentum of the wheel could be used to turn the  single stator-magnet 90-degrees,  each time a magnet on the wheel spins past .
(  you can figure the rest out )

   But now I just remembered that my  electric-motors  that I filed at the patent-registry,  don't need or use commutators.  I don't know if these electric-motor designs are worth anything,  and I'm sure I also lost  these designs due to  'circumstances' .
    In the diagram below,  is a  Disc-Magnet,  and the elctromagnetic-field from the conducting-wire close to the surface of the Disc-Magnet causes it to rotate.  (  In an actual-motor the entire surface of the Disc-Magnet would be covered by conducting-wires  )
   I got the idea by thinking of a solution to the problem posed on the following post
   http://overunity.com/15978/new-reactionless-motor-from-india/msg459408/#msg459408
   it involves   N-theory  vs  M-hypothesis,  and making a fully-rotating version of the  m-device  in the diagram in that post .

   You can download what I filed at the patent-registry,  from the link below
  https://sites.google.com/site/johnbackerinventionsanddesigns/john-backer---inventions-and-designs
    (  it's easy to download if you have chrome browser )