Permanent magnet motor

[guest1289]

Keeping  in  mind  that  each  thin   'magnetic-stick'   making  up the mesh,  is actually physically  touching  the other    thin   'magnetic-sticks'   making  up  just  one  Diamond in  the  mesh,   so  technically no  magnetic-field  should escape  .   
      Every single  pole  of  every single    thin   'magnetic-stick'  ,  is  physically touching the  poles  of  two other   thin   'magnetic-sticks'  .

(  but then I thought about the  'Welding-fault-tester',  and that made me wonder if some of the magnetic-field  could  become  external,   it also reminds me of some science I can't remember now,   involving the  electromagnetic  properties of  mesh   etc  )
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But being honest ,  now I'm only interested in the thing  below.

Idea :
'Imagine boats floating on a  Very-Large-Flat-Magnetic-Field (  the  magnetic-field  would be curved up at the edges so the boats don't fall out ),   and the boats could have little weights hanging from their keels to give them stability'

Now I can't work out  why this idea would not work .

(    I would have thought this idea would have been possible for well over a century,  and that if it was possible,   I would already have seen it sometime  )

(  Obviously the   large-flattish-magnet   providing the   magnetic-field   for the boats to float on,  would have an unusual shape to successfully achieve the effect,   such as a  bathtub,   but with a  much less  flat  bottom  )

[ayeaye]

As i said, my experiment shows, when spacing the magnets, there is overunity. All the problem is that this overunity is too small, not enough to overcome friction, and thus cannot provide continuous rotation. Or maybe it can, with magnetic bearings, but what sense does it make to make such device.

[guest1289]

Any viable chance to  achieve  'perpetual-motion'  cannot be ignored,  as you know,  you'd make history

(  perpetual-motion  definitely is overunity,  and the most observable  form  )

(  This week I think I have invented a new type of  magnetic-bearing,   I created a new thread for it,  here it is  :    http://overunity.com/15971/a-new-magnetic-bearing-invented-today/msg459122/#msg459122    ,    add a small  'magnetic-bearing'   on the end of the axle to keep the  'rotator'  from  jumping out of the  'static-magnets',  that extra  small  'magnetic-bearing'  could be a   small  'dome-magnet'  being repelled by a  flat-magnet.    You'll notice it is an incredibly simple and naive design,  but I feel confident about it  )

( I thought that another way to overcome   'merge-points'  friction is to place magnets into a  'BRICK-WALL-PATTERN',  so that all the   'merge-points'   counterbalance  each other.  )
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(   Maybe,  you could avoid the above work,  and just build  'My boats floating on a Flat-Magnetic-Field  Idea',   which I posted in this thread some hours ago  ' August 16, 2015, 10:50:59 PM',   for  Minimal-Work,  you'd   achieve something very impressive   )

[ayeaye]

Any viable chance to  achieve  'perpetual-motion'  cannot be ignored,  as you know,  you'd make history

If you think so, you may try https://archive.org/details/Flcm3 . This works only with magnets such distance apart, if you put them closer, they will flip poles when there is a full circle of them. And use the weakest magnets you can get. These are 5 x 5 x 3 mm ceramic magnets, as much as i can remember. I also tried it with four 7 x 7 x 5 mm magnets, also works. You likely cannot get weaker magnets, don't use magnetic rubber, as it has irregular poles. I wrote about it somewhere here as well, but i don't remember where.

But using that with magnetic bearings, there would likely be other problems. It is a kind of bumpy, and the stator magnet has to go through. Magnetic bearings are not so rigid, and thus it may just "ride on the surface", in which case there will likely not be any effect. Several stator magnets can be used, but they have to be carefully placed, to make the movement even. So at least it would be a very delicate act of balance.

[guest1289]

Even  though  I can't build anything at ( I'm not exaggerating,  and I can't go into reasons ),   I will examine  https://archive.org/details/Flcm3   very closely.

I would like nothing more than to be convinced that someone has achieved  'Perpetual motion',  or overunity,     that  really would be incredible,  but I soon sense other peoples  delusions  or  fakery (  since I too have believed too much in some of my inventions,  but I have never faked anything  ) .     NOTE :   I Know You Are Not A Faker .
(  Unfortunately,  because of the value of energy,  it would be too hard to cover up or suppress any  achievement  of  perpetual-motion  or  overunity,  because there are too many people who would utilize the discovery immediately  ) 

NOTE :   I Know You Are Not A Faker .
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Question
You no longer believe in using magnets,  and you have have replaced them with  coils/induction,  but you use electricity to induce the magnetism in the coils

( 1 ) -  Are the  coils  looped (  the two ends joined to each other )   ?

( 2 ) -  If the   coils are looped ,  then you would also  induce an electrical current in the loop,  and that is no longer like  a  permanent-magnet  ?

( 3 )  If the   coils are not  looped  (  the two ends are not joined to each other ),   then the   magnetic-field  in the loop could  still contain  some of the properties  of the electricity  inducing it,  such as frequency,   (  and maybe even an  'electric-field',  but don't waste time discussing that )     ?
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Since you are knowledgeable ,  maybe you could examine my  daft  idea below,  because it's so simple,  it has confused me .

Idea :
'Imagine boats floating on a  Very-Large-Flat-Magnetic-Field (  the  magnetic-field  would be curved up at the edges so the boats don't fall out ),   and the boats could have little weights hanging from their keels to give them stability'

Now I can't work out  why this idea would not work .

(    I would have thought this idea would have been possible for well over a century,  and that if it was possible,   I would already have seen it sometime  )

(  Obviously the   large-flattish-magnet   providing the   magnetic-field   for the boats to float on,  would have an unusual shape to successfully achieve the effect,   such as a  flattened-out-bathtub,   but with a  much less  flat  bottom  )
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