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Overunity Machines Forum



Poles Reversing

Started by CLaNZeR, October 10, 2006, 04:52:29 PM

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Kator01

Sean,

seperate the two magnets and please report the result. If the position of poles stay push big magnet with opposing pole in the middle of each magnet.

Thank you

Kator

CLaNZeR

Hi Kator

They stay reversed in the middle if you remove the magnets.

They will swap back over if the big magnet is reversed and pushed against it again.

Regards

Sean.

Quote from: Kator01 on October 11, 2006, 07:16:36 PM
Sean,

seperate the two magnets and please report the result. If the position of poles stay push big magnet with opposing pole in the middle of each magnet.

Thank you

Kator
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composer

hi all,

this is my first post. I hope it's usefull.

Then, about the magnets who invert theirs poles ... it's absolutely normal.
If you put a ferrite magnet in a neodimium magnet field, you can easily magnetize the ferrite magnet with the polarity of the neodimium one (try also with only one ferrite magnet and one neodimium .... reverse and reverse again) ... it's a normal thing about different cohercitivity of two materials.

CLaNZeR

Been thinking about this reversing of poles again after seeing the post regards Steorn and new info that apparently got slipped into their Forum conversations and quickly deleted.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1811.0.html

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A little bit of info has been linked recently.

Sean has said that the device uses a premise of 'walking a magnet' around the B_H curve.

Supposedly the rotor contains a ferrite type magnet, with a neo for the stator, such that the neo magnet temporarily reverses the pole on the ferrite
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Now thinking about this and going back to using a wheel.
What if you had Neo Magnets on the wheel and the magnets faced out North and then South and then North etc etc around the wheel.

Then outside the wheel set staticly you place a ceramic magnet with say North pole facing towards the wheel magnets.
As you turn the wheel and the first Neo with North facing the North on the Ceramic magnet will hit the sticky point and repel against each other. But if you hold that position long enough then the Ceramic field will eventually give way as the poles reverse and become attracted to each other.

If you have other magnets staticly placed around the outside of the wheel and posistioned correctly then they will deliver the force to first push the magnet around to hit the sticky point but also enough power to hold it there till it forces a pole reversal and also enough power to get past the new sticky point created.
Now as the next Neo magnet approaches with its south facing outwards, the ceramic has already switched it's poles and we are back to the beginning.

I was going to try draw this up but finding it difficult as in my mind I can picture it but finding it hard to get down on paper.

What also makes sense to me now is the delay in watching the Steorn motor run where it hits a point where it sort of slowly stops some kind of device gets slowly lifted and the device spins again, could this indeed be the delay of the Ceramic switching poles?

Regards

Sean.





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gyulasun

Quote from: composer on October 17, 2006, 08:15:07 PM
hi all,

this is my first post. I hope it's usefull.

Then, about the magnets who invert theirs poles ... it's absolutely normal.
If you put a ferrite magnet in a neodimium magnet field, you can easily magnetize the ferrite magnet with the polarity of the neodimium one (try also with only one ferrite magnet and one neodimium .... reverse and reverse again) ... it's a normal thing about different cohercitivity of two materials.

Hi composer,

Can you give some more info (web link, paper reference etc) on how quick the a ferrit magnet recover and change back to its original poles after the ''treatment'' from the stronger magnet?
Thanks,  Gyula