'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours

[allcanadian]

@Mark E

Perhaps what you observed simply had a lot of empeneage area and powerful engines.

I have always been interested in aviation for as long as I can remember more so as an engineer and I like the technical aspects. In fact I have observed a 30' ground to ground missile take off from a couple miles away and it was over the horizon in about 3 seconds.


This was nothing like that, it was a clear calm winters night and the craft had no plume from the rear, no vapor trail and made no sound going from hover to at minimum 10 times the velocity of a missile. It is so far removed from what we know of current technology that they are simply not comparable. Have you ever seen a shooting star fly across the horizon?, now imagine a shooting star with no tail hovering in place then accelerating and making a sweeping turn upward and out of sight... it was moving that fast.


I understand most people don't believe this is possible which is why I have said you have to see it to believe it. That is the only acceptable proof in my opinion.... you have to see it to believe it and I have. It makes my life easier because I don't have to wonder if it is possible because I know it is so the only question which remains is how?.


I also saw another oddity in the sky last fall, it was a set of three dull red beacon type lights in a perfect triangle which were not flashing. I saw it on the horizon and it went directly overhead at high altitude. As you may know law requires a red, green and white light as well as an anti-collision strobe none of which were present on the craft I observed. I think the reason most people may not see these things is because almost nobody actually spends any amount of time outside at night anymore while I enjoy watching the stars. Do the math... I spend way more time stargazing than most everyone I know and I have only seen two events which make no sense in my lifetime.




AC

[MarkE]

@Mark E

I have always been interested in aviation for as long as I can remember more so as an engineer and I like the technical aspects. In fact I have observed a 30' ground to ground missile take off from a couple miles away and it was over the horizon in about 3 seconds.


This was nothing like that, it was a clear calm winters night and the craft had no plume from the rear, no vapor trail and made no sound going from hover to at minimum 10 times the velocity of a missile. It is so far removed from what we know of current technology that they are simply not comparable. Have you ever seen a shooting star fly across the horizon?, now imagine a shooting star with no tail hovering in place then accelerating and making a sweeping turn upward and out of sight... it was moving that fast.


I understand most people don't believe this is possible which is why I have said you have to see it to believe it. That is the only acceptable proof in my opinion.... you have to see it to believe it and I have. It makes my life easier because I don't have to wonder if it is possible because I know it is so the only question which remains is how?.


I also saw another oddity in the sky last fall, it was a set of three dull red beacon type lights in a perfect triangle which were not flashing. I saw it on the horizon and it went directly overhead at high altitude. As you may know law requires a red, green and white light as well as an anti-collision strobe none of which were present on the craft I observed. I think the reason most people may not see these things is because almost nobody actually spends any amount of time outside at night anymore while I enjoy watching the stars. Do the math... I spend way more time stargazing than most everyone I know and I have only seen two events which make no sense in my lifetime.




AC

So this was a light in the sky that you saw moving?  What did you have available to fix: distance, size, and speed?  Without the aid of something like a radar, I don't know how I would be able to judge distance in the sky, particularly at night.  I know that my eyes are easily fooled.  As to lights:  I think that if someone wanted to hide a vehicle, I don't think they would turn on any kind of indicators.  I am not trying to sell you a swamp gas story before your complimentary eye exam.  I just don't see anywhere near enough information to draw any conclusion as to what it was that you saw.

[allcanadian]

@Mark E

So this was a light in the sky that you saw moving?  What did you have
available to fix: distance, size, and speed?  Without the aid of something like
a radar, I don't know how I would be able to judge distance in the sky,
particularly at night.  I know that my eyes are easily fooled.  As to lights:  I
think that if someone wanted to hide a vehicle, I don't think they would turn on
any kind of indicators.  I am not trying to sell you a swamp gas story before
your complimentary eye exam.  I just don't see anywhere near enough information
to draw any conclusion as to what it was that you saw.

In the first instance I and another witness saw 4 equally spaced brilliant white lights turn on almost instantly at an angle of about 40 degrees upward from ground level South West from us. My guesstimate would be near 1 or 2 miles out and they hovered in place making no sound whatsoever on a dead calm clear winters night. Keep in mind we were 35 miles from the nearest town and 90 mlies from the nearest city, there is no light pollution and the night sky and stars are so clear most people cannot even imagine it. At first I thought it was aircraft landing lights or possibly two or more craft in formation ie.. equally spaced lights, however after a minute I understood many things simply did not add up. It was hovering in place not moving at all and it made absolutely no sound as well if we draw an arc from our eye outward an object may be close and small or it may be far and very large and this craft was by no means close to us.

The white lights hovered in place not moving and making no sound for about three minutes when a smaller dull orange spherical shaped craft left the larger one from the right side and hovered in place for around a half second. The smaller craft then started accelerating to the west making a wide sweeping arc upwards and continued accelerating upward and away from us until it disappeared from sight. To be perfectly clear the smaller craft went from hover at relatively low altitude to an extremely high altitude... no longer visible... in about 1.25 seconds and it accelerated upward like nothing you can even possibly imagine with no jet plume, no vapor trail and no sound. I could go into very much more precise detail because I am a very good observer however these were the main observations. Then we talked about what we just saw and we confirmed that in fact both of us saw exactly the same thing. I also noted that the other person was uneasy, not scared but they had a very concerned look on their face. At no point did I feel scared in any way, more so amazed and very curious as to how this was possible.


Again, I would state this is something which is almost impossible to believe unless you have seen it for yourself however once you have there is absolutely no doubt that this is real and this technology is not even remotely comparable to the conventional technology we know of.

So this was a light in the sky that you saw moving?  What did you have available
to fix: distance, size, and speed?  Without the aid of something like a radar, I
don't know how I would be able to judge distance in the sky, particularly at
night.

I thought I should address this question specifically. I have seen hundreds upon hundreds of airplanes flying at night at various altitudes and in fact is very easy to judge the relative distance and velocity. So long as it is clear and the stars are visible in the background we use this as a reference just as we use a known background such as land behind a moving car. It is very easy and I have absolutely no issue with it , you have seen airplanes fly over on a clear night have you not?. I would hope you would be able to tell if it was at 1000 feet or 30,000 and whether it was moving at 100 mph or 600 mph because I have no issues with it what so ever.

AC

[allcanadian]

@Mark E
For clarity I am going to make this a separate post, what I observed has never left my mind since that time and over the years I have come to understand how it may be possible.

Now consider the facts, an unknown craft accelerates from hover at low altitude and makes a wide sweeping turn upwards to a very high altitude and out of sight in around 1.25 seconds. This impossible acceleration implies two scenario's in my mind, one it has a very low mass and an extreme energy source or two the inertial effects of matter have been changed or negated in some way. Do the math, Acceleration is the rate of change of velocity and it requires a known amount of work (Force x Distance) to change the velocity of a mass. So either the craft required an astronomical amount of energy to accelerate to ultra high velocity without ejecting mass or a small accelerating force is required and the properties of the mass have changed in some way ie. it's inertial properties.

I have always found it strange that many claim to have great knowledge and understanding however their claim breaks down when asking even the most basic questions. For instance Inertia is claimed to be the resistance of any physical object (mass) to any change in its state of motion (velocity or direction). However to my knowledge not one person anywhere can tell me what inertia is fundamentally or why or how it acts on a mass the way it does. So here's a good question... if the change in motion of a mass is "resisted" then how exactly is it "resisted" and by what and from where because as we all know the most fundamental law is that something may not act on nothing any more than nothing may act on something.

Extreme accelerations and greater than light speed are not thought possible because the energy input is supposedly equivalent to the change in motion which is "resisted" ie, Inertia, however nobody anywhere can seem to tell me exactly how or why it is "resisted". Aparrently it just is and there is no rhyme or reason or real understanding to it in any sense of the word. At which point we may apply some simple logic... if the claim that the property of inertia always applies in every instance is true then it must be proven that it applies in "every" instance of an infinite number of possibilities or it is a false claim. The fact that nobody knows what this "resisting" force of inertia is should have been our first indication that all is not known and we have more unanswered questions than we do answers.

The fact of the matter is that if for any reason the change in motion of a mass is not resisted due to the property of Inertia then all bets are off and impossible acceleration and greater than light speed are well within the realm of possibility. So I will put the question to everyone here... can anyone explain how and why the change in motion of a mass is resisted?. Note the conservation of energy is not a valid answer because interia reinforces the fundamental nature of the conservation of energy thus the argument becomes circular and a false claim. We cannot use one concept to reinforce a second then use the second to prove the first because that's all bass ackwards.

AC

[picowatt]

AC,

What you describe witnessing does not seem to rule out the possibility that what you saw were conventional aircraft and associated landing/navigation lights.  Note that you easily use the word "craft" to describe what you saw, when, apparently, all you can say for certain is that you saw "lights".  Did you actually see any "craft"?  It is very easy for the mind to fill in the blanks with facts not in evidence.   

What did the three observed white lights do?  Did you watch until they were gone and if so, how/when did they leave/disappear?

PW