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'Impossible' rocket drive works and could get to Moon in four hours

Started by Pirate88179, July 29, 2015, 01:12:10 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: Jimboot on August 04, 2015, 07:03:31 AM
there's still that whole big bang thing though. Seems to me they're leaving that up to the holy triumphant Godmeiseter. Can't find where the extra energy is? Invent some dark energy. There must be more matter too... ahhaaa dark matter! Oh yeah and black holes . Sorry been watching too much EU stuff.
The dark matter and dark energy ideas are just hypotheses.  We observe what we can with all our limitations, form hypotheses, and then look for ways to test those hypotheses.  The dark matter and dark energy hypotheses have been proposed in order to deal with various inconsistent observations.  As we eventually get better observations the dark matter and dark energy hypotheses will either gain evidentiary support or lose out to contradictory evidence.

Jimboot

Quote from: MarkE on August 04, 2015, 07:55:49 AM
As we eventually get better observations the dark matter and dark energy hypotheses will either gain evidentiary support or lose out to contradictory evidence.
Haven't the eu guys already done that?

MarkE

Quote from: Jimboot on August 04, 2015, 09:18:35 AM
Haven't the eu guys already done that?
AFAIK they have not developed enough evidence to get a consensus going.

allcanadian

You guys just keep spinning your wheels but your not going anywhere so maybe it's time we get a grip and do some thought experiments. I like thought experiments because it allows us to play god when doing experiments to see what might happen. Since I am now a god I will not be held to the misconceptions of puny mortals on some backwater planet you call Earth and I will be doing all my experiments in space. Space is not an exception to any rule it is the rule, it is the norm which defines everything else and matter is the exception.


In my first experiment I will use a bucket A, a compressed spring C and another identical bucket B in deep space. The compressed spring C is inbetween the buckets A and B which are full of sand and when I release the spring the buckets move in opposite directions. Bucket A on the left moves left away from bucket B and bucket B on the right moves right away from bucket A... equal and opposite. Here we can see in order for A to move left it must act against the inertia of B and likewise in order for B to move right it must act against the inertia of A... equal and opposite. The momentum (mass-velocity) of A and B are the same because the final velocity of A and B is the same and mass is assumed to be constant. We can see that in order for A to move left it must act on or push off of "something" which is B however B has nothing to act against which we would consider tangible, B is not like a wall or a building. The same thought applies to B and in order for it to move right it must act on or push off of "something" which is A.


Do you see the problem?, in order for A to move left it must push off of "something" which is B through spring C however B has nothing tangible to hold itself in that position like a wall or a planet because it is free floating in space. Thus we can see there is nothing tangible for B to act on to hold itself in place other than itself. I understand you whacky Earthlings might say "Inertia" is resisting the motion of B however I reject this foolish notion that one can just make up a term to explain something which does not actually explain anything. The fact remains that in order for A to move to the left it must push off of something tangible on some level because universal law dictates that something cannot act on nothing. B cannot act on itself nor can it act on supposedly empty space and it cannot act on nothing so you are only left with one viable solution.

In order for A to move to the left it must push off of B and there is absolutely nothing to hold B in position other than some letters of the alphabet which form the word inertia. Ultimately that is the true extent of your understanding concerning my experiment.... you believe B is held in place in space by some letters of the alphabet.... You are amazing beings.

AC



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MarkE

You have spun yourself in quite the circle.  Maybe you should start a step or two earlier:  What do you use to compress the spring in the first place?