A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]

[CANGAS]

Neither was I but I sure found one.  This shows the importance of TK's rundown tests.  Of course, I was doing this long before I even heard of TK.  Maybe I should have attempted to make a breaking device and by accident it might have kept spinning?

Bill

Perhaps there is a market niche for a new kind (or two) of braking device. 

CANGAS 194

[TinselKoala]

another replicator sharing his build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDfJFIxmSr0&feature=youtu.be

from here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation-20.html

thanks for looking

Chet K

Has it been a week already Chet?

http://overunity.com/15996/a-sincere-gentleman-sharing-a-magnet-motor-build-nda-issues/msg462829/#msg462829

And still no self-running magnet motor FROM ANYONE.

And in a month, there still won't be. And in a year.... still none.


And Mack, you are utterly wrong about not being "scientifically refuted." Not a single person on your "team" has done the SCIENTIFIC tests I have proposed, illustrated by example, made testable scientific hypotheses about, etc. Nobody "over there" even knows how much power their rotors dissipate under various conditions. Dozens and dozens of magnet motors using your same basic ideas have been tested over the years and have always come to a stop _faster_ when they are fully outfitted, than when they are tested with just a blank rotor. Until you or someone else proves otherwise, these tests solidly and fully _refute_ you and your claims.

[tinman]

Has it been a week already Chet?

http://overunity.com/15996/a-sincere-gentleman-sharing-a-magnet-motor-build-nda-issues/msg462829/#msg462829

And still no self-running magnet motor FROM ANYONE.

And in a month, there still won't be. And in a year.... still none.


And Mack, you are utterly wrong about not being "scientifically refuted." Not a single person on your "team" has done the SCIENTIFIC tests I have proposed, illustrated by example, made testable scientific hypotheses about, etc. Nobody "over there" even knows how much power their rotors dissipate under various conditions. Dozens and dozens of magnet motors using your same basic ideas have been tested over the years and have always come to a stop _faster_ when they are fully outfitted, than when they are tested with just a blank rotor. Until you or someone else proves otherwise, these tests solidly and fully _refute_ you and your claims.

Ok-so i went and read the whole thread-->it is quite the comedy fest over there
DUFO now seems to be a top notch physicist,and full bottles in quantum physics. Next we'll have a particle accelerator being constructed over there,and there'll be black holes galore 

[MadMack]

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And Mack, you are utterly wrong about not being "scientifically refuted." Not a single person on your "team" has done the SCIENTIFIC tests I have proposed, illustrated by example, made testable scientific hypotheses about, etc. Nobody "over there" even knows how much power their rotors dissipate under various conditions. Dozens and dozens of magnet motors using your same basic ideas have been tested over the years and have always come to a stop _faster_ when they are fully outfitted, than when they are tested with just a blank rotor. Until you or someone else proves otherwise, these tests solidly and fully _refute_ you and your claims.

TK,
Putting words in my mouth that were never uttered and claiming that uncited tests from other failed designs refute me and my work. How unprofessional. Do you understand that we are still working with components so there is nothing to do any of your tests on? When we reach the motor stage then you can get your tests. Then they will be both useful and appropriate, not before.

And I challenged YOU, knowledgeable scientist that you are, to prove my design or theory false.
We're still waiting....

[TinselKoala]

TK,
Putting words in my mouth that were never uttered and claiming that uncited tests from other failed designs refute me and my work. How unprofessional. Do you understand that we are still working with components so there is nothing to do any of your tests on? When we reach the motor stage then you can get your tests. Then they will be both useful and appropriate, not before.

And I challenged YOU, knowledgeable scientist that you are, to prove my design or theory false.
We're still waiting....

1. You are wrong that "there is nothing to do any of (my) tests on". You and your builders need to do -baseline rundown- tests on their rotor assemblies, even to the point of knowing the actual power dissipation of their rotors. If you don't know how to do this, I refer you to my various videos on the topic. Like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJavCZX_-PI
And we all know that you and your builders will _never_ "reach the motor stage", by which you presumably mean a self-running permanent magnet motor.

2. Your "theory" is considered to be false because it contradicts the principles of Conservation of Energy and Conservation of Momentum. It is up to YOU to show otherwise, and until you do, the standard interpretation of magnetic fields as conservative still holds. You and your builders have never actually formulated a real "theory" anyway, and certainly have not tested any real hypotheses that may have been generated by it. I have shown how to generate and test real scientific hypotheses, but since they have the potential to _disprove_ your theory, neither you nor any of your builders will actually perform the necessary experiments.

3. I cannot even test your full design because you have never told exactly what it is. NDA, remember? However I have tested _many_ similar designs to what you have shown, and frankly, I see nothing new or even particularly interesting in it. Angled magnets, ramps, balanced and unbalanced configurations, etc. have all been tried for many years by many people and none of them has ever actually shown a benefit over the inert baseline system. And none of your builders are having any luck either, even with your... and UFOPolitics... help.

4. You and your people would never accept anything that I do, anyway, because you are all running on faith, rather than evidence-based science. Remember that UFOPolitics has had a thread running for nearly 3 and 1/2 YEARS, where he claimed "Officially Overunity Galore" three years ago, but has actually never produced a single Joule of energy over what it takes to run his motors.... and some of the people who are working with you now are the same ones he had in thrall for all that time. Many others built his designs with his advice at every step and found.... nothing, but spent lots of money and time to find it. And now you are essentially repeating the same folly, and you even have his help! This is hilarious.

5. It is _always_ up to the claimant to prove that their claims are _true_. No amount of outside experimentation that is unsuccessful would be accepted by people who believe that your unsupported claims are true. You make an extraordinary claim that would turn conventional physics on its ear, but you provide absolutely no evidence that your claims are true. This is faith, religion, not science. Prove your claims first, and _then_ get people to replicate them. Anything else is simply dishonest, pseudoscientific misconduct.

6. Nobody has ever given any coherent reason why my proposed tests are invalid or inappropriate or unscientific ... because they aren't.


And in another week, month and year, there will STILL be no self-running magnet motor coming from you or any of the people in your cult at EF.

Just think of how easy it would be to prove me wrong. But you cannot.... so you try to turn the issue around and ask _me_ to do your work for you. You are following the "free energy" false claimant script to the letter. Perhaps you are new to this field, but some of us have quite a bit of experience in the matter and you can take my word for it... we've seen it time and time again and the results are always the same. If you think you are any different... then PROVE IT. But you cannot.

Go ahead, perform the basic rundown tests on your rotor without magnets (but equal weights in their place), or encourage your builders to do so. Then you will be able to see that _all and any_ of your additions like ramps, angled magnets etc. only cause further braking, and none actually add the least bit of energy to the system.  Why not, what have you got to lose? Are you perhaps afraid to do it? Or do you _already know_ that I am right about this, perhaps?



Putting words in your mouth that you never uttered? SO you didn't post this, then?

Really? As if that would prove anything to the likes of the people here. Do you understand the difference between public and private?C'mon TK. Is that the best you can come up with?
This thread is nothing but a personal smear. Not one post has been made that scientifically refutes any part of what I have posted publicly about the motor design.

Don't worry. This thread seems to be fully capable of generating a hundred more pages of crap without my help.

Mack

You actually have more critics in your thread on EF than you do here. They are telling you that your ramps and whatnot are creating drag, not adding thrust, just as I have done.