A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]

[AlienGrey]

Yeah!  but who says a gadget to enable you to do just that wont exist some where and at some time in the future ! what about this > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCvbqMGPpa8

[AlienGrey]

I have nothing against research and speculation, Chet. But that is not what has happened here. Someone clearly claimed to have created a self-running magnet motor, and claimed to be able to show others how to make one. This is not "research" or "speculation", it is a clear claim that something has already been accomplished. But let me remind you that absolutely NO evidence was provided that this claim is or was true. And I know that it cannot be true, and not only that, but that there are several "tells" in the story that indicate that it isn't true, regardless of the actual physics involved.

So I'm not criticizing researchers, experimenters, even "crazy" theorists here. I'm criticizing a claimant who has made an outrageous claim without providing support, and who has gotten people to do all kinds of misguided work because of it. This is "anti-research", in fact. I've even given valid suggestions for testing some of the "subclaims" experimentally, which suggestions have largely been ignored.  People still are pushing things around with their fingers, going Ohh ahhh when they see things that are actually perfectly ordinary and which have no hope of adding a single microJoule of energy to their systems beyond what they put in with their fingers.  If they want to behave in such a silly manner instead of proceeding scientifically, I'll laugh at them publicly. If they want to proceed scientifically I've got suggestions and help -- after all, I've built more than a few "magnet motors" myself and I've demonstrated how to test them using valid techniques and proper application of the Scientific Method.

I've got a pretty thick skin. Go ahead and berate me, insult me, threaten me with brawls, et cetera. None of that addresses the real problem that is making you, or other people, mad at me.  You are frustrated because deep down inside, you know I'm right and you don't want me to be.

It really depends on what you mean by a magnetic motor, will a spinning magnet or two do ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGPnxLSgnUI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp9cFrZWneI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycs9zDZbdVo

[citfta]

@ TK,

You can bad mouth Madmack all you want of course but the truth is some of us with more open minds learned a few things from him before he disappeared.  Several of us learned how to balance one magnets pull against another magnets push.   That has been applied to some other projects we have been working on.  As Ramset has said several times almost anything is worth at least looking at to see if it has value.  I had doubts from the very beginning about whether Madmack actually had a true magnet motor.  But I still took the time to see what he had to say and learned a few things in the process.  If everyone had always had your very closed minded attitude we would all still be riding horses and using spears and rocks to get something to eat.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[ramset]

Carroll
Tinsel does indeed have an open mind ...A quick peruse of his Videos shows more than enuff proof of that .
Its just that he has set limits ...places he feels comfortable jumping up onto the Bar and yelling Liar..
associates the veracity of the claim with his "Flying man" analogy ..with great confidence...


he has probably spent more time investigating these things [OU claims] than 99 % of the men on this planet.

Can we have a crystal ball for claims ...or a Tinsel Ball...?

will we stop looking... or listening to men that go out of their way to make a claim ??

I have to be very honest here...a very telling moment for me was when Mack made a statement to the effect
There I have shared it... MY mind can rest ...or peace of mind ...[something like that ]

It seemed his gate configuration showed an acceleration ... we have seen this many times and could easily assume
an MO for gain ,HOWEVER these assumptions have always proven difficult to manifest into a running closed circuit magnetic configuration  or magnet motor ...
much harder than hearding cats

Did Mack Assume ??
or is this balance which Carroll and others have sorted.. the key to another much bigger possibility ?
can we afford not to look closer and jump up on the bar and call Mack a liar ??

Is that a left hand or right hand threat Tinsel ?[maybe an eye poke...}

No stone left unturned...and I'm not throwing them [the stones]
just trying to have an open mind and an open heart .

respectfully
Chet

[citfta]

My apologies to Tinsel then for accusing him of not having an open mind.  I am still learning about the different posters on this forum.  His continual naysaying about Mack led me to a wrong conclusion about his mindset concerning the search for free energy.

@ TK,  My apologies sir for misunderstanding where you were coming from.  I have also been accused of the same thing when I was sure something was being faked.  I should have known better.

Respectfully,
Carroll