A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]

[ramset]

Mack is adding some more insight into his thought process or "M.O." of the Motor.
a posted link http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/vectors/Lesson-3/Resolution-of-Forces

from here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation-9.html

[ramset]

Things are rolling along at the thread ,
09 PM 
MadMack
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Ladies and gentleman, I am now the recipient of a CEASE AND DESIST demand specifically citing this forum thread and all other public or private venues. Since everything I have discussed is prior art or general design advice I refuse to do so. My so called partners may have control of a specific motor design but they do not own the knowledge I have. I have not revealed any information specific to the patent application that was supposed to be filed "for our mutual benefit" before now.

Here is some straight to the point information: The ramp splits earlier than my drawing shows. In my side view, where the ramp approaches the rotor at a severe angle and then levels off, that is roughly the middle point of the fork spread. In other words, by the time the ramp reaches that leveling off point the split is almost half as wide as it gets. And with a 1/2" square stator magnet face, the gap between the forks is about 1/4" wide at that point. If you scale it out you will see that the angle formed by the V of the forks is roughly 16 to 18 degrees. In my top view, about 8 degrees for each fork measured from the horizontal center line of the stator magnet.

As the distance between the forks widens, the distance between the forks and the rotor magnet decreases, mostly due to the arc of the rotor travel, and this helps cancel the back drag caused by the angle between the two forks.

The function of the ramp is to provide the "power stroke" as Ufo says, then as the ramp continues toward the stator magnet, to at least maintain the rotor speed until the ramp's attraction to the rotor can be dissipated as much as possible, leaving the two magnets as the sole attraction mechanism, again as much as possible. This function is what must be accomplished with this ramp. Period, the end.

Rue,
We are not canceling magnetic poles, we balance the force applied to the rotor by two sets of magnets at separate points. Later we will alter that balance at advantageous points in the rotation so the magnet sets can aid the rotation.

BroMikey,
Eddy currents circulate parallel to the rotor shaft, so the laminations are 90 degrees to the shaft to limit the circulation. Exactly the same as in an electric motor. No need to read between the lines here.
BTW you do have the view labels reversed in post 320.
You asked earlier about the rotor material, it sounds to me like you would be the expert there. I just asked my plastic supplier for a strong, dimensionally stable nylon that was easily machinable and he sold me a material that fit the bill. Sorry I don't have the invoice and I don't remember the exact type of nylon but I got it from Sabic Polymershapes.

Cristian,
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the air gap between the ramp and the magnet on the side up - down and the thick of the ramp, as a general rule? 

I'm not exactly sure what the question is. The air gap is a variable, it depends on the strength of the magnets and how you decide to terminate the forks. The gap is a fraction of the stator magnet width. The cross section area of the ramp should be at least the same as the rotor magnet. The forks, at least half that at the beginning of the fork and less at the end of the fork. The point is to carry all the lines of flux of the rotor magnet until you wish to diminish the attraction between the rotor and ramp at the stator magnet, and there is more than one way to accomplish that. K&J Magnetics has information on the thickness of iron it takes to contain all the lines of force for their magnets.

Randy & Wantomake,
I used a 1/4" x 1" mild steel ramp for my initial tests. If it becomes too magnetic, heat it to a dull red & let it slowly air cool.

@Everyone,
If any of you are having excessive difficulty balancing more than two pole sets and ramps together, the motor can be divided into multiple rotors and stators on a common shaft. I'm not advocating doing this, just pointing out the possibility.

I hope I have answered all the questions that have been asked of me. If I have overlooked anyone, please repost and I will try to address the question.

Come on you guys! Some of you are so close to finishing this 2nd step I'm bouncing in my seat with anticipation.

Best Regards to all,

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation-12.html

Thx
Chet K

[TinselKoala]

I am now the recipient of a CEASE AND DESIST demand specifically citing this forum thread and all other public or private venues.

[ramset]

The fellows are really working together on this one .

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation-14.html?s=994b2ee3d02a08c0dfb47a19d66b3a8f

Thanks for looking .

Chet

[TinselKoala]

That's hilarious! So UFOPolitics has abandoned his "asymmetric motor" which, according to him in December of 2012, made "Overunity Galore"!!! But, as everyone now knows, doesn't work as he claimed for so long in his nearly never ending thread.... and now he's telling everyone just how to build this thing! Which also will never work, and which is getting to be more and more like Minato's designs every day.

Well, at least it will keep them off the streets... until the next blowhard false claimant comes along and suckers them in with "sincerity" and false claims of having had--- some time ago--- some kind of thing that "worked" but for some reason can't show it working today.

Nobody is afraid of lawsuits, or visits from the Men In Black, over there either. So they don't actually even believe the stories themselves.

Eventually they'll get to some configuration that has all forces balanced out, and they'll give it a spin by hand and it will spin for a while and come to a stop... and they'll claim "IT'S WORKING but still stops for some reason!!" But they'll never compare to a "null" version with the same rotational inertia but no magnets... which would of course spin for the same, or even greater, length of time given the same starting impulse. Look, UFOPolitics, when asked to produce a video of a Working version, made a _cartoon_!!

Hey... why not just continue working on the Ainslie OU heater claims, which she is attempting to bring back from the dead? Or is Err-on too embarrassed to try that one on again?