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Before you post your next BS, please study at least what it is about. You will save the time of all of us.

Avramenko's plug has nothing to do with energy harvesting. It is "means for transmission of electrical energy from the initial source to a consuming device via a single-wire transmission line"

As you may know, the ELFE flashlight does not use any wire to plug into any source. At least ADGEX does not ship any cable with it, and never spoke about the necessity of plugging the flashlight somewhere.

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Before you post your next BS, please study at least what it is about. You will save the time of all of us.

Avramenko's plug has nothing to do with energy harvesting. It is "means for transmission of electrical energy from the initial source to a consuming device via a single-wire transmission line"

As you may know, the ELFE flashlight does not use any wire to plug into any source. At least ADGEX does not ship any cable with it, and never spoke about the necessity of plugging the flashlight somewhere.

More misdirection by you!  When the AFEP generator is switched on, the xenon tube flash immediately with the same strength and period than without the line.  This confirms the Avramenko's claim.

Gravock

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More misdirection by you!

You have a very short memory. I have proven wrong every single nonsensical claim of yours.  All misdirection comes only from you, and so it is in this case again.

When the AFEP generator is switched on, the xenon tube flash immediately with the same strength and period than without the line.  This confirms the Avramenko's claim.

Read Avramenko's patent and the article you linked again. You misinterpret their words in the most stupid way possible. The purpose of the test was "to check the inventor's claim about the energy transmission through a single wire with the Avramenko's plug." and no energy harvesting. And when they tell "When the AFEP generator is switched on, the xenon tube flash immediately with the same strenght and period than without the line", it means that they confirmed that the tube can be powered by a single wire and that the tube lights with the same intensity as without the Avramenko's plug, powered in the standard way (with two wires).

If the tube lighted without Avramenko's plug and without any wires at all, it would not prove Avramenko's claim - it would prove that Avramenko's plug is not necessary at all, and that energy can be transmitted wirelessly without it. It would have been a failure, and not a success as clearly written in the article you linked. And if the tube lighted without any wires, it would not mean anything else than that there was a very strong EM field in the lab. You can get tubes lighting without wires easily in a very close proximity of high-power lines, where the gradient of the EM field is very steep. There is nothing magic or miraculous on it. It still does not mean you can harvest similarly high amounts of ambient energy in standard average environment.

Check out Avramenko's patent at http://www.google.com/patents/EP0639301A1 There is not a single word about energy harvesting. Its sole and only purpose is the single-wire transfer.

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You have a very short memory. I have proven wrong every single nonsensical claim of yours.  All misdirection comes only from you, and so it is in this case again.
Read Avramenko's patent and the article you linked again. You misinterpret their words in the most stupid way possible. The purpose of the test was "to check the inventor's claim about the energy transmission through a single wire with the Avramenko's plug." and no energy harvesting. And when they tell "When the AFEP generator is switched on, the xenon tube flash immediately with the same strenght and period than without the line", it means that they confirmed that the tube can be powered by a single wire and that the tube lights with the same intensity as without the Avramenko's plug, powered in the standard way (with two wires).

If the tube lighted without Avramenko's plug and without any wires at all, it would not prove Avramenko's claim - it would prove that Avramenko's plug is not necessary at all, and that energy can be transmitted wirelessly without it. It would have been a failure, and not a success as clearly written in the article you linked. And if the tube lighted without any wires, it would not mean anything else than that there was a very strong EM field in the lab. You can get tubes lighting without wires easily in a very close proximity of high-power lines, where the gradient of the EM field is very steep. There is nothing magic or miraculous on it. It still does not mean you can harvest similarly high amounts of ambient energy in standard average environment.

Check out Avramenko's patent at http://www.google.com/patents/EP0639301A1 There is not a single word about energy harvesting. Its sole and only purpose is the single-wire transfer.

I hope you realize the single-wire transfer generates longitudinal waves.  This is a near field phenomenon, which has already been mentioned in this topic.  The wireless energy transmitted from a single mobile phone is capable of lighting a LED.  Longitudinal waves are mentioned in the patent and in the reference links on JL Naudins site.  According to JLN, "Energy is transmitted through the single-wire and free electrons sucked from the air are used for triggering the flash..."  If sucking free electrons from the air isn't energy harvesting, then I don't know what is!  You should study the link I provided earlier on surface and space charges. 

Gravock

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I hope you realize the single-wire transfer generates longitudinal waves.  This is a near field phenomenon, which has already been mentioned in this topic.  The wireless Energy transmitted from your mobile phone is capable of lighting a LED.  Longitudinal waves are mentioned in the patent and in the reference links on JL Naudins site.  According to JLN, "Energy is transmitted through the single-wire and free electrons sucked from the air are used for triggering the flash..."  If sucking free electrons from the air isn't energy harvesting, then I don't know what is!

It looks like you do not understand what longitudinal waves are. You can read about them for example in Wikipedia. There is nothing magical about them, they are very common types of waves. Sound waves are the typical example of longitudinal waves. I have no idea what you mean by "near field phenomenon", but longitudinal waves are not limited by distances. I guess you used the term just because you think it looks magical enough to make some impression.

Lighting dimly a tiny LED with a few microwatts at the distance of the antenna from the phone of about a centimeter, is also no miracle. Every kid could explain you why (check Inverse Square Law). The video you posted, demonstrates perfectly how small the levels of available ambient RF energy are, and how quickly they dissipate with distance from the source - the phone typically emits with the power of some 2W, but already at few millimeters from the source the gain is just in microwatts (the tiny diode has typical nominal power of units of milliwatt, but it is blinking just dimly and shortly far below its nominal brightness, despite using quite a big loop antena).

And no, the "sucking of electrons from the air" is no energy harvesting. It is simply the interaction of the EM field of the tube with the environment. The EM field on the tube is created with the help of the diodes and the capacitor, who are fed the energy with the standing wave through the single-wire feed from the generator. It is a principle similar to monopole or long-wire antennas, with the difference that both ends are connected here, and that there is no wireless transmission. In other words, the energy does not come from the air, it comes from the generator. Again, read the patent of Avramenko for the detailed explanation.