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Have I made a point, here?   Long wires can be used, and have been, by Marconi, in radiotelegraphy.

Yes, you made a point. Now it is clear that you did not joke. You really do not have a clue how antennas work. As I explained, long wires can be used, and are indeed used as antennas. However, they have to have their geometry, and/or length, and also the wire or rod thickness (and hence the impedance) pretty well tuned for the required frequency. The very long and very thin wire wound on a metallic cylinder, as you suggest, simply won't work like you think.

As for Plauson - as far as I know, ADGEX did not specify that the flashlights work only with hundreds meters long antennas hung from an aerostat (balloon). If it is that case, it may explain why the flashlights do not work for anyone.

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Some news from Adgex:

Today i received an email where they apologized for my 'unpleasant experience' and offered to send me a free new lamp without the need to send back the old one.
They said that the glue used for sealing had some negative effects on some contacts, and this prevents it from correctly recharging the accumulators.
For me this explanation is beyond comprehension (and beyond my technical understanding) but we will see...

The more rational explanation would be that they want to buy some more time to collect money from their investors.   

Yes, everyone who complained, received this email. You will get the replacement with another unfortunate defect in a few months. In the meantime investors race to buy more shares of ADGEX.

[the_big_m_in_ok]

Yes, you made a point. Now it is clear that you did not joke. You really do not have a clue how antennas work.

That wasn't the point I was trying to make.   I was showing that extremely large antennas can produce power and aren't necessarily energy efficient as power generators.   Obviously.   That's what I implied and that's what I'm saying.   I further say they're often designed as transmitters for extremely low frequencies and can be constructed with varying lengths of wire as subassemblies.   They're capable of reacting with various frequencies, IMO.   Obviously, again.   But, whether they were designed that way would or not would most likely require consulting a more complete, accurate reference on that antenna or ask the original designing electrical engineer, if possible.

As I explained, long wires can be used, and are indeed used as antennas.

I didn't see that in your post.   If I did, I didn't pay close attention.   We can agree that very long wire antennas can generate power, but the level efficiency can also be debateable.

However, they have to have their geometry, and/or length, and also the wire or rod thickness (and hence the impedance) pretty well tuned for the required frequency.

The designs were chosen for mere large size.   Not whether they were built for transmitters or receivers.   Lualualei, for example, was built for a transmitter, but it can also intercept incoming radio waves, as the drawing I uploaded is capable of being depicted.  (The picture on the Wikipedia entry isn't the same as the hand drawing I uploaded.)

The very long and very thin wire wound on a metallic cylinder, as you suggest, simply won't work like you think.

Here's my quote from posted reply #409:
       "I BELIEVE even if the smallest gauge (40) wire on this list would be several layers on the barrel of the flashlight at, say, 1/2" for the diameter.   It won't weigh much for a 1,000 ft. length, but you'd also need a transformer somewhere in the barrel to step down the voltage to a reasonable level.   And at least one diode and a capacitor to render it to pulsating DC."[/size]
       I didn't say it would do anything like you said?   What did I say it would do?   I said it would take several layers to get the power you need to charge (the "accumulators")---company's term for the correct power conservation part(s)?---that should be part of the flashlight.   I said a transformer would be needed to lower the voltage and then a diode with capacitor would be required to supply pulsating DC.   I said that.   Above.   What is your understanding that's different?

As for Plauson - as far as I know, ADGEX did not specify that the flashlights work only with hundreds meters long antennas hung from an aerostat (balloon).

I said that part of the invention wouldn't work.   My quote:  "If you look at patent #1,540,998 you'll see he favors suspending a very long circular coil of wire from balloons (the likes of weather balloons).   No, this won't work."    I expect very much that ADGEX didn't say anything about balloons.   A balloon wouldn't make any difference unless it's electrically connected to the flashlight.   A long wire?   With a flashlight dangling from it?   Talk about heavy.   Talk about unwieldy.   Talk about an unnecessary and ridiculous addition that should do nothing useful.   Is this something you can think you can agree with as being accurate as a plausible possibility?   You're very probably correct.   ADGEX shouldn't have said anything about 'balloons'.[/size]

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If it is that case, it may explain why the flashlights do not work for anyone.

Okay, that's a 'red flag'.   In order to market a product that should be reasonably reliable, then thorough testing should be carried out in order to prove the things work and if they don't, now, then why the hell is that so?   What!?   I didn't know that people were owning defective flashlights.   The company would obviously keep the problem 'low-key', so as to protect their reputation and stock price---if they actually have stock shares.[/size]

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The "(/size)" words aren't being added by me.   I suspect, because of my security clearance and that I'm always being watched, these words are being added by persons unknown.   For their own reasons.   They don't have to tell me anything.   The revised Homeland Security Act gives them the legal right to do just about anything they want.


p.p.s.
An 'accumulator' in Australia is a battery. Just so you know.   There's a picture of one earlier in this thread.  About Pg.9, I think.   It's not linked to another site.   Just the picture.

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I said it would take several layers to get the power you need to charge (the "accumulators")

No, sorry, you can put as many layers as you want, it will simply not work in the way you think, and you have no chance to charge the batteries with it.

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No, sorry, you can put as many layers as you want, it will simply not work in the way you think, and you have no chance to charge the batteries with it.

You are 100% correct as after the first layer you get the Faradays cage effect
Kind Regards
Mark