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World's first real Free Energy Flashlight - no shaking - no batteries! No Solar

Started by e2matrix, August 29, 2015, 09:01:12 PM

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gravityblock

WOW!!!

I'm really disappointed in this community.  The ELFE Flashlight appears to be based on a modified coherer.  Carefully study the basic operating principals in how the coherer operates in order to understand how the testing done on this forum and elsewhere has prevented their devices from functioning properly.

The basis for the operation of the coherer is that the metal particles (beads in this case) cohere or cling together and conduct electricity much better after being subjected to radio frequencies. The radio signal from the antenna is applied directly across the coherer's electrodes. When the radio signal from a "dot" or "dash" came in, the coherer would become conductive. The coherer's electrodes were also attached to a DC circuit powered by a battery that created a "click" sound in earphones or a telegraph sounder, or a mark on a paper tape, to record the signal. Unfortunately, the reduction in the coherer's electrical resistance persisted after the radio signal was removed. This was a problem because the coherer had to be ready immediately to receive the next "dot" or "dash". Therefore a decoherer mechanism was added, to tap the coherer, mechanically disturbing the particles to reset it to the high resistance state.

Coherence of particles by radio waves is an obscure phenomenon that is not well understood even today. Recent experiments with particle coherers seem to have confirmed the hypothesis that the particles cohere by a micro-weld phenomenon caused by radio frequencies flowing across the small contact area between particles. The underlying principle of so-called "imperfect contact" coherers is also not well understood, but may involve a kind of tunneling of charge carriers across an imperfect junction between conductors.  Decohering isn't needed for the imperfect junction coherers.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: gravityblock on March 03, 2016, 04:50:59 AM
WOW!!!

I'm really disappointed in this community.  The ELFE Flashlight appears to be based on a modified coherer.  Carefully study the basic operating principals in how the coherer operates in order to understand how the testing done on this forum and elsewhere has prevented their devices from functioning properly.

The basis for the operation of the coherer is that the metal particles (beads in this case) cohere or cling together and conduct electricity much better after being subjected to radio frequencies. The radio signal from the antenna is applied directly across the coherer's electrodes. When the radio signal from a "dot" or "dash" came in, the coherer would become conductive. The coherer's electrodes were also attached to a DC circuit powered by a battery that created a "click" sound in earphones or a telegraph sounder, or a mark on a paper tape, to record the signal. Unfortunately, the reduction in the coherer's electrical resistance persisted after the radio signal was removed. This was a problem because the coherer had to be ready immediately to receive the next "dot" or "dash". Therefore a decoherer mechanism was added, to tap the coherer, mechanically disturbing the particles to reset it to the high resistance state.

Coherence of particles by radio waves is an obscure phenomenon that is not well understood even today. Recent experiments with particle coherers seem to have confirmed the hypothesis that the particles cohere by a micro-weld phenomenon caused by radio frequencies flowing across the small contact area between particles. The underlying principle of so-called "imperfect contact" coherers is also not well understood, but may involve a kind of tunneling of charge carriers across an imperfect junction between conductors.  Decohering isn't needed for the imperfect junction coherers.

Gravock

A coherer acts as a memristor.  A memristor is a passive two-terminal electronic component for which the resistance (dV/dI) depends in some way on the amount of charge that has flowed through the circuit. When current flows in one direction through the device, the resistance increases; and when current flows in the opposite direction, the resistance decreases. When the current is stopped, the component retains the last resistance that it had, and when the flow of charge starts again, the resistance of the circuit will be what it was when it was last active.  Please note the trace curve (hysteresis) of the coherer and the memristor (video).

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

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Quote from: markdansie on March 03, 2016, 04:37:21 AMYou are 100% correct as after the first layer you get the Faradays cage effect
No, sorry Mark, not really. The wire wound around a cylinder is a simple coil. Coils with such small diameter are called "small loop antenna" or "magnetic loop". Small loop antennas do not couple with the electric field, they couple to the magnetic field, and as such the Faraday-cage effect is irrelevant. However, small loop antennas have extremely poor efficiency, but the main problem is that "the_big_m_in_ok" does not understand that the gain is definitely not at all proportional to the length of the wire used. It is a function of the geometry, the Q factor, the impendance, the inductive reactance, and the parallel capacitance that needs to tune the antenna to the required frequency. So no, more layers will not give more power.

gravityblock

The "ball" coherer, designed by Branly in 1899 (image posted in previous post) is an imperfect contact type with a series of lightly touching metal balls between two electrodes.  This is similar with having loose contacts in the ELFE.  The aluminum foil used to fix the loose contacts defeated the proper operation of the ELFE.  The so-called batteries with poor contacts replaces the lightly touching balls in a coherer.  The ELFE uses a copper tube (resonant chamber) instead of the glass tubes traditionally used in coherers.

Remember, the coherer is a primitive form of a radio signal detector used in the first radio receivers during the wireless telegraphy era at the beginning of the 20th century. Its use in radio was based on the 1890 findings of French physicist Edouard Branly and adapted by other physicists and inventors over the next ten years. The device consists of a tube or capsule containing two electrodes spaced a small distance apart with metal filings in the space between. When a radio frequency signal is applied to the device, the metal particles would cling together or "cohere", reducing the initial high resistance of the device, thereby allowing an electric current to flow through it.  This is exactly how the ELFE has been designed to operate.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

txt

Quote from: gravityblock on March 03, 2016, 04:50:59 AMThe ELFE Flashlight appears to be based on a modified coherer
Sorry to disappoint you, but there is no coherer in the ELFE flashlight. Besides it, coherers are terribly inefficient, and not usable for receiving AM or lower frequencies (they were originally invented for the detection of Morse pulses). And most importantly, as already shown before, the strength of the EM field is simply way too low to harvest this amount of energy with a device of the size of the flashlight, even if you had an antenna with 100% efficiency. Regardless if it is a coherer, small loop antenna, ferrite rod antenna, dipole, monopole, yagi, parabole, or whatever else.