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Tinman's coil shorting circuit

Started by penno64, September 12, 2015, 05:18:54 PM

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tinman

Quote from: penno64 on November 12, 2015, 04:29:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK3JOlY0V8Y&feature=youtu.be&t=386

from 13:30

It is good to see some one is finally on to it.
Listen from 20:00 when he adds the loads-one a short,and one a lamp.
Sound familiar ?.

tinman

Quote from: Erfinder on November 12, 2015, 07:17:51 AM

Its obvious that Murray has this down, 45 years of playing around this concept tends to have that effect on the researcher.  This concept, while similar to what you have shared, is not the same, it would be wise of you to point that out.  In all honesty, its not a good idea to suggest that the technologies have anything in common, if for no other reason, the ideas which motivated the building of your device and that which inspired his device are totally different.


The sound you referred to doesn't ring any bells for me.  From your comment it seems as if you are suggesting we hear something akin to acceleration which one experiences in replications of your RT, this is not the case in the Murray demonstration.  This more than likely because his machine is operated at a fixed speed, by an external machine.  Add to this the fact that we are oblivious to the inner layout and relations between the various components and systems inside his machine.  A comparison between his setup and yours is moot.


What we can gather from his presentation is that he knows exactly what hes doing, we cannot make such a claim......that being said.......shouldn't folks be following his lead?




Regards

Incorrect.
He has a prime mover and generator separate,where as mine is one complete unit.
I know exactly how his generator works as i have the blue prints for it,and when you add the motor in the mix,you basically have the RT. He is missing one vital action that relies on one vital piece-but other than that,they !are! the same in that they work on the same principle.

You have done this on a number of occasions Erfinder,thinking you know how things work. But you cant know how the RT work's,as i have not disclosed the full workings of it. So please refrain from insisting you know how my stuff work's-when you do not.

Brad

gotoluc

Quote from: tinman on November 12, 2015, 05:19:14 AM
It is good to see some one is finally on to it.
Listen from 20:00 when he adds the loads-one a short,and one a lamp.
Sound familiar ?.

Yes, it makes the same sound as your V3 RT when you activate the switch to power the load.

Could you point out where I could get a blueprint of his design

Thanks

Luc

tinman

Quote from: Erfinder on November 12, 2015, 09:10:14 AM
Seriously........



        1.  That the Rotary Transformer exists.....(the real one, with all the bells and whistles....WORKING and driving a load....)
        2.  An exact replication of Jim Murray's machine the "Transforming Generator" (a worthy name, not just catchy title), with your modifications.  (you have a history of modifying devices you don't understand...... this is not a strength.....)




Regards

QuoteUh hello?  I said "his machine is operated at a fixed speed by an external machine."  That's what I said, what my statement means, since you obviously didn't comprehend what I stated,  is that he's using an external prime mover!

Yes,and i was pointing out that even so,they are close to the same,where i have merged the two.
I comprehended what you said quite clearly,but i was making sure that others here understand that there is not much difference as you tried to make claim to.

QuoteThere is no doubt in my mind that you "think" you know "exactly" how his generator works.  You have a history yourself of "thinking" you know how other researchers works function.

No-i know how it work's. As i stated,i have the blue print's.
What history might that be?-please post example.

QuoteIn my opinion there is more than that, but this isn't about my opinion its about what you "think" you know about another individuals research.

I get the feeling that you cant put 2 and 2 together some times EF.

QuoteThe sad truth is that you refuse to accept that the man has no interest in doing what you "think" you are doing, and or are going to do. 
So you just hold on to that vital piece, or share it with him, as you saw in the video, he desperately needs that which you "think" you have.

What i think i have is what i have. I also have no interest in what others do not have.

QuoteYou haven't demonstrated that you know how things work either...What you have demonstrated is that your thinking can be influenced by those who speak with confidence and authority, this we have all witnessed several times.....after they are finished with you, what you think you know morphs into what you thought you knew.....I think...lol..... this is a strength....not a weakness...just saying

I bow to no man,and i am not influenced by anyone. I stand by what i say and think,and you only have to read threads like the partnered output coils thread to see that.
Im not sure what you have been reading,but you really do have it all screw'd up EF.

QuoteGuilty as charged.....I think I know how things work......AND?

That is the difference between !think! and know. As you have yet to show anything out of the ordinary,then it is clear that your thinking is wrong.

QuoteI digress, this isn't about the know nots '(I'm in that group), it's about you and your superior knowledge, your deep understanding of Nature and her forces.  An understanding which inspired the creation of a super machine dubbed the Rotary Transformer.  I will be the first to admit, it's got a real catchy title......however, since the only thing being presented is a catchy title, I call into question the actual existence of an actual device.  So no it's not that I think I know how your machine works, I don't care how you "think" your machine works, nor do I care how you think I think your machine works.  What I think is the claimed device, not the one being replicated, doesn't exist.

Yes-and motor vehicles are just an elusion too.

QuoteThe only real response to this is to demonstrate:

Guess you missed the boat on that one EF.