Bessler's Mt 125

hoppfield · October 28, 2015, 08:38:03 PM

If anyone is wondering, in besslerwheel.com, there is a thread on how smart someone needs to be to figure one of Bessler's wheels. My answer was someone smart enough to work at it.
I did ask ab hammer how intelligent someone needs to be to work with someone to build something like this. He says he needs money. I am going to build on my own. I have let people in a wood working forum know that there might be a wood shop in it for me and a home to have one in if I do a good job of this.
And with Mt 125, it will be difficult for someone to discredit Bessler or myself.

Jim Lindgaard

edited to add; Chances are I may need to limit how much the bellows open so I can time it to run continuously.
Still, I think it will be nice to see a part of history come to life.

hoppfield · October 29, 2015, 10:23:17 AM

Quote from: hoppfield on October 27, 2015, 11:59:36 AM
The video link is to my video showing where I am at build wise. With the attached image, please read the last statement that AB Hammer makes, my research shows I do not know blacksmithing. Mt 125 is not armoring, it is Bessler's drawing and a successful build will prove that Johann Bessler built working wheels.
I have been heavily criticized for my work and one day hope to find out tinselkoala's identity as I do not support cyber bullying. He discredited work I did that has to do with this understanding of how Bessler's wheel worked.
And as AB Hammer mentions about my naval service, I went to school for Propulsion Engineering. What he did in the Coast Guard remains a mystery.
As for his comments that people do not ridicule me for having served in the Navy, he is referring to the constant discrimination that I have had to tolerate because of my service connected hearing loss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aCfloSpyMU

AB Hammer,
This post of your from besslerwheel.com and how smart someone needs to be to realize a Bessler wheel like Mt 125. I posted work at it myself.
This is where your post about bellows in here will show in both forums you have no interest in seeing a Bessler wheel working.
And the thread where you said I am the ultimate fraud, everyone in that thread had something in common with you, they weren't willing to build something to show Bessler was successful. So Alan, it's not just you, besslerwheel.com has many members who don't want a working Bessler wheel. It's those green dots, the ones that say you're highly regarded, status does need to be protected, doesn't it. And there have been quite a few people who asked the moderator to eliminate voting for your friends.
And there like here, few people. And in both forums, a small group of people control it. Of course, you're also in both forums as well.

hoppfield · October 29, 2015, 10:49:50 AM

With Mt 125, there are a few considerations. One is the pressure head. Since the bellows open inward towards
the axle, when the pressure head moves, it's height doesn't change.
With a 1 inch diameter pipe (1" dia.), a pipe (riser pipe) 20 inches tall (20" L), it will hold about 9 oz.'s of water.
Why this matters is because a diameter of 1 inch (1"), it has a surface area of about 3/4" (0.75 square inches). This means
that the force acting on the volume of the bellow is about 12 oz.'s per square inch (12 oz./psi). And this means that
the force acting on the bellow needs to be greater than 12 ounces (12 oz.'s).
The lower bellow really doesn't do anything when water is being moved to the top bellow. The problem is if the bellow
has a surface area of 12 inches (12 in^2, limber is often measured by the foot, it's a linear measurement that has more
than the length of the board, it's a reference).
And when a bellow pumps, if the ratio of it's surface area to it's opening, then 3/4:12 shows how much work is required to
pump water by compression. And since 12/.75= 16, then to pump water by closing the bottom bellow would be
12 oz.'s x 16= 12 lbs. of force.
Yet because weights drop because of gravity, no one thinks that a pump can work more efficiently by drawing water upwards
when in this instance, it can. And when someone realizes this, then they can consider the work being performed by a lever
dropping and the shift in force by the force of water in a bellow being shifted from one side of the wheel to the other. And if
someone is willing to do some basic math and calculate leveraged force and the volume of a bellow both open and closed, it's
not that difficult, it does take some time working at it though.

p.s., the symbol in the drawing most likely is a reference to Freemasons who require a belief in God
to be a member. It could be Bessler's way of saying believe.

hoppfield · October 30, 2015, 01:47:56 AM

The 2 pictures shows some of what it takes to build something like this. Since I am using plastic as a water
barrier, I do need to make sure it is strong enough. With the other picture, the movable part of the bellow
is shown. I will need to remake those so they align properly with the where the "hinge" will be mounted.
And when I finish this part, then I will need to make the trim pieces that will secure the plastic and it's
covering to the bellows. I do plan on this working which is why I am taking the time to do it right. And once
the bellows are fully assembled, I will be able to test them. That's the part that I am looking forward to. I am
hoping I'll be able to get a lot done this weekend.
And the cut outs in the plywood the bellow assembly sitting on is my own build that I am doing It relies on
conservation of momentum. It's something that if it works will be a slow roller at best. I have to make arch supports
for that build. The link is to where I have been posting that build in a wood working forum.

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f13/motion-machine-110609/

hoppfield · October 30, 2015, 02:11:10 PM

Between last night and this morning, I made some new parts for my bellows. They'll be the part that moves.
The black lines show where I'll need to do a little trimming on my mini-router table. After that, the retainers for
the leather outer shell and it's lining will need to be made. I think it'll look pretty cool when I'm finished with it. :-)
And this is kind of why I've put the time and money into this that I have.