Sharing ideas on how to make a more efficent motor using Flyback (MODERATED)

[truesearch]

@shylo:


Maybe I'm not understanding your magnet set up completely, but it reminds me of Flynn's switchable / parallel fux path device.


Isn't it simular to this?


trueseach

[gotoluc]

@shylo:


Maybe I'm not understanding your magnet set up completely, but it reminds me of Flynn's switchable / parallel fux path device.


Isn't it simular to this?


trueseach

shylo has most likely based his design after I shared this video from the previous page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VlhMI5tv5Y

The operating principle is explained and demonstrated in my video.

Shylo has tried to replicate it with ceramic magnet instead of an Alnico. However, as I have explained above it won't give the best results.

Luc

[shylo]

Hi truesearch, Luc is correct ,I simply tried his test but,I don't have any Alnico's.
What are these Alnico commonly used in, I would like to salvage some.
Verpies, thanks for that info good to know.
Luc in the setup I had the ends of the I's have a constant field when the coil is powered the field reverses,but it doesn't shut off.
Your's shuts off the field or should I say blocks it?
Just wondering why yours shuts off whereas my just flips?
Think I'll try it without the neo but then basically it's just an electro-magnet right?
Thanks artv

[gotoluc]

Hi truesearch, Luc is correct ,I simply tried his test but,I don't have any Alnico's.
What are these Alnico commonly used in, I would like to salvage some.
Verpies, thanks for that info good to know.
Luc in the setup I had the ends of the I's have a constant field when the coil is powered the field reverses,but it doesn't shut off.
Your's shuts off the field or should I say blocks it?
Just wondering why yours shuts off whereas my just flips?
Think I'll try it without the neo but then basically it's just an electro-magnet right?
Thanks artv

I thought I explained why your results are not so good in this post: http://overunity.com/16167/sharing-ideas-on-how-to-make-a-more-efficent-motor-using-flyback-moderated/msg479140/#msg479140
Basically your neo is too large and your ceramics are too weak.

Alnico magnets are not commonly used. You will have to buy them. Here is the one I purchased: http://www.ebay.com/itm/172050785362

Luc

[MagnaProp]

...Basically your neo is too large and your ceramics are too weak...

We don't understand why this would cause his poles to switch as shylo claims.

If the neo is too large and the ceramics too weak, then we would expect the poles to stay in the same place and not switch sides. The poles from the neo might be a little weaker as some neo flux is channeled through the ceramics, but the dominate poles from the neo shouldn't be able to change positions.

The only way I see the poles switching are if the ceramics were able to over power the neo or the neo its self is being switched. Both of which shouldn't be possible in shylo's set up. Perhaps shylo's neo is an alnico and he doesn't know it? He could test this easily enough by removing the ceramics and see if his coil switches his neo.

////Edit

...So shylo's device the I's are always magnetized because the Neo is overpowering and what I wrote previously...

I agree with all you wrote. However, not only are the I's always on but the strange part is that the polarity of the I's are switching.

He says it's a weak effect so I'll just chalk it up to a mystery of life.