Substitute the neon bulb in the Bedini SSG

[antimony]

Hi, guys. 
I am collecting the necessary parts or components for a Bedini SSG battery charger.
I am almost done with collecting the parts. I just lack the neon bulb.

I have tried to find someone that offers them, but i can´t seem to find one anywhere, but i read on the wikipedia site that neon bulbs that they are used in the on-off switches in extension cords.

If i salvage the bulb, could that maybe work, or can i use a substitute bulb?

Also, while im already posting this thread i would like to ask if someone have any tips regarding to winding the bifilar coils?

I would really appreciate some feedback on this project, becouse im sure many members here have already made this one.

[mscoffman]

Try:   http://www.jameco.com

{click on search for: neon bulb}

These Ne2 neon bulbs are quite common as there are no good
substitutes for their ability to fire at 90Volts with zero conductivity
before reaching the breakdown voltage. Neon Bulbs were used in
the relaxation oscillator in the time-base of early oscilloscopes, so
they are quite an old component actually. There is also a green
argon bulb with a different breakdown voltage.

Yes, you can find neon bulbs in very inexpensive night-lites too, but in series
with a standard 47K ohm 1/4 watt resistor for 120VAC which will need to be
deleted. Make sure you are dealing with a glass neon bulb and not a LED
these days. And No, substituting a LED will not help a Bedini machines.
 

[TinselKoala]

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/A1A/A1A-ND/4176016

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-pcs-Miniature-Red-Neon-Lamps-5mm-Round-NE-2-H-High-Brightness-/351251907633?hash=item51c83ec431:g:pwwAAOxyWiRSMIbs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Box-of-10-NE-2-Neon-Glow-Lamp-Bulb-Hudson-1-17W-NOS-/131521141581?hash=item1e9f455b4d:g:tRYAAOSwNSxU64pO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NE-2-NEON-NE2-NEONS-BULB-Sencore-B-K-exact-replacement-LOT-OF-5-/121531628802?hash=item1c4bd97d02:m:mm9w9ly5RHO8l6bFEQbYGCA

http://www.surplussales.com/bulbs-incan-panel/BulbsNeon.html

http://www.newark.com/multicomp/a1a-ne-2-10pk/lamp-neon-t-2-0-6ma/dp/61M2935

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=ne2+neon

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1657692.pdf


The internet is your friend... 

[antimony]

I took apart one of our extension cords today,  and i found that it contained a small glass Ne2 bulb. 

And from what i gathered from your post was that it is ok to use in the SSG circuit?
English is not my native language so please forgive me if your post said the absolute opposite of what i understood. 

Have you any experience with this circuit?

[tinman]

I took apart one of our extension cords today,  and i found that it contained a small glass Ne2 bulb. 

And from what i gathered from your post was that it is ok to use in the SSG circuit?
English is not my native language so please forgive me if your post said the absolute opposite of what i understood. 

Have you any experience with this circuit?

The neon bulb is only there to protect the transistor from over voltage if the charge battery is disconnected.  Also note that the SSG pulse motor is very slow to recondition and charge a bad battery. You would be better off leaving the base/emitter diode and flywheel out,and use it as a solid state unit--> unless of course you like spinny things and have a great deal of time to wait for your battery to charge.

Please remember-regardless of what you may have heard or read-->this is not a free energy machine.