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Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback

Started by Creedo, October 20, 2006, 01:24:30 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: tropes on October 28, 2006, 01:57:05 PM
Creedo
As an old drag racer (1970's) I like the idea of a reciprocating piston engine. I have done some background work on the idea (see attach.). I will upload photos and drawings to my page at http://theowlnest.com/kickbypage.html
Peter

Hi Peter,

When I saw your picture on the reciprocating piston engine I remembered an interesting trick to make your electromagnet stronger but still using the same current as before. I saw this trick in an old patent where a permanent magnet placed above an electromagnet is kicked up to a distance of 5/8" (1.58cm) when 300mA DC current is switched onto the em coil. Then another permanent magnet is placed UNDER the em coil and for the same 300mA current into the same coil the upper permanent magnet is kicked up as high as 1 1/2" (3.81cm). 

I do not know if you are aware of this addition of a permanent magnet flux to that of an electromagnet in such a setup you have in your picture so I thought I mention this to you. It costs only the price of an extra magnet in a particular design.
The patent is US3670189 from 1972 and you can see it here:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3670189.pdf  and you need to use Acrobat Reader.
I attached Figs. 10 and 11 below and I edited in red arrow line the two distances involved.

I have just seen your post on looking for common tinkering on the reciprocating piston magnet engine. Unfortunately I have been involved in other "tinkerings" so I cannot join you in this project. By the way I cannot see yet your idea with this machine; do you expect possible overunity from it and if so how? If you feel like talking about it I could understand and maybe comment.

Regards
Gyula

tropes

Gyula
Thanks for your interest. I tried this addition to my other wheel and found that there was a definate increase in repulsion force but this was offset by repulsion when the piston returns to the coil. The RPM actually increased when I reversed the PM creating attraction.
My first goal is to build the reciprocating engine and then consider overunity.
Peter

gyulasun

Hi Peter,

Yes, I think it is possible and the inventor back in the 1970's used ceramic magnets with less strengths than nowadays Neo magnets have. Perhaps with longer solenoid coils for the electromagnets the distance could be increased, hence the repulsion at the return phase could be less.

rgds
Gyula

jaszed


tropes

Hi all
I have uploaded photos of parts to http://theowlnest.com/piston.html . The unique cylinder is 4 brass rods spaced around the circumference of the piston. The piston is a graphite tube with a 1/2" neo magnet inside. and the connecting rod is connected by a full-floating wrist pin. I will use a Hall effect IC and transistor to time the spark (activate the coil).
Tropes