A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?

[tinman]

I have made no claims. I simply object to the way you tear people down and asassinate their character because they made an error. And as he said all through the video the numbers don't matter because the numbers are still amazing.


Why not just point out the mistake as Brad has done and then let's get on with it. I don't object to your knowledge, just the way you deliver it sometimes.

This is true MH,and i am probably guilty of it my self some time's. But where as i may play a quick chorus,you punch out the whole tune.

The fact is,that now i have used a known value capacitor,and started with a known voltage across that capacitor before the start of the test,and a known voltage across that capacitor at the end of the test,we can then calculate how much energy was delivered to the load,or how much power was dissipated by that load. As the discharge voltage and current values were much the same as what RMS showed with his EESD,then it is safe to assume that we are within the ball park of calculating  the energy  his EESD delivered to the load. When we do it this way,there is no need for time interval measurements.

There is also the fact that ! regardless of the +/- 10% !(and remember, it could be the minus just as much as it could be the plus),the weight/volume ratio of the EESD to that of the super cap for energy storage is still 4x+ in favor of the EESD. As i used a controlled experiment that represented his values over time(or very very close to),then that is hard to argue against.

Brad.

[tinman]

I did not question mh calculations.

Sorry Jim,i didnt read far enough back to see what happened over a few posts. MH has this nack to make it sound like you are arguing over the measurements.
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You don't have the guts or character to admit that you are wrong when it is as plain as day.  And you damn well know that I know what I am talking about and if I make a mistake I will freely admit it.

-->!! That'll learn me !!

Brad

[tinman]

Mile high said , If you can't understand how to measure how much energy a battery can output into a load you may as well pack it all in right now. hahahah than mile high you need to pack it all in to a very low resistant load ... If the battery was 12 v than it fastest delivery time is 12 seconds but that is a battery not a capacitor. SO if the battery super exceeds that time than harmonic response of the material that makes up the load is contributing by means of EMF resonance. Each proton has a static charge that protects it from the electron fields. This static field can pick up oscillations from the quark field by the harmonics of 5ths..   

The cells must there for play a contribution to the input of energy to gain a sustain over the time the load is receiving its charge ! But these types of cells are super sensitive and could pick up 5ths from its environment ... A piano does this and there for is a very basic free energy system but its not an OU technology...

Each proton is 1kw of pure energy and you can take from it a tiny percentage of that energy and when you switch the load off it will recharge it self......... Now is that not what is almost happening here hahahah wow ! Its ok the life cycle of a proton is 36 billion years but that is depending on when it was first constructed ! Let alone if it has been through more than say 10 000 super nova's or picks up a constant from the plank level or is drip feed from the radiation leaking from a star or black hole....


But lets take another look at electrons ! They are spinning at there event horizon at 5.5 million MPH and will be influenced to rise by green light ! Not forgetting that a single electron has the same square of charge to that of its proton . So the electron it self hold quite a punch and will also re charge from the ambient. How much energy was you thinking of releasing >  ?  <  ... In one tiny tea spoon of water is equal to one atomic bomb dropped on japan ... And for anyone who knows this all ways exspect there will be many ways to tap into free energy. The man has not made any error and obviously knows what he is doing and he is honest so if there is error and I cant see it than state it in the manor it is presented.

Always remember at the point of contact there is resonance ! and where there is resonance there is a possibility for an extension of unity but never ever over unity ............... sorry .!




   





   






   

93rd
What are you smoking?

[Nink]

Guys, please lets not throw RMS under the bus.  We all get excited about our own inventions and do not take as critical a view on our own as we would of others (no one has an ugly baby). I did point out to RMS in a positive way the need to include all the data and he was very open in his response.  See top comment on his video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-aOPQ9_MyM

My Post.
"Assuming you can coat this multiple times and it will increase 1g & 178 mA every time you dip, and drop at the same rate, and your peak charge is 1.69V per g (Started at 2.7 but dropped to 1.69V when load attached, you need 33 coats of your product to = the coat of Li-Ion. so your total weight is EESD .33g compared to Li-Ion .455g. I am not overly confident it will scale this much (need to demonstrate) so you may need multiple EESD cells to every Li-Ion and take into account weight of substrate and separators in calcs. Data is here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Fh_XHSwy2w3UJ6WegG9vwrQbibTzgAjStSeYzTtlf5k/edit?usp=sharing"

RMS Response.
"I am not sure it will scale that way exactly either mate - so the very next thing we need to do is a scaled version - which is what i am working on right now - nice spreadsheet incidentally"

[tinman]

I am right ...... Its the most important thing to learn in free energy and there is no OVER UNITY ... JUST FREE ENERGY..!

In this case with the cells there is something going on that is of interest but it does not calculate to what people want it to ... ........ Now how does that happen ?

The other way is with a negative charge into a small set of capacitors via a 22 watt transformer that has been swiped with a ferrite magnet ........ You tap the transformer at the primary coil yet you connect the capacitors to the secondary coil and you may need to use just one diode ............. To confirm your negative charge into the capacitor connect it to the battery and it will blow up hahahahah

... Now the battery trick hahahah the battery can just charge its self up every time ! Its secret is in how you discharge it ......... 12V AT A 1 AMP hour limit has a maximum 12 second discharge rate ! A second is in fact an imperial number and not a metric number and all imperial numbers are harmonic ......... Its the law of nature and all electrical energy belongs to it !

Now see here hahahahahahaha,this is where you are going belly up like many others,in not knowing the difference between a surface charge and a deep charge when it comes to batteries.

The thing is you guys don't know what a 5th is and that is why you are not getting anywhere !

The opposite is actually true. Most of my friends normally end up with a 5th of what they had when the wife up and leaves. It was the removal of the 4/5th of what they had that now has them going no where

Mile high is searching for any way he can to find a loop on his pancake coils but there the wrong coils hahahahha

What are you talking about hahahaha ?

There is so much free energy in the most basic of systems I cant begin to calculate it . All you have to go on is youtube and historic data and a lot of miss adventures in the field

Or go and buy a solar panel.

I see no error in this mans work ! He has discharged into a system yet he finds he still has volts

We also see he did not fully discharge the cell.

Ok and these volts at first seem to have no power but give it a few hours and the batteries will have some amps back

Well that dose not make much sense,but are you referring to recovery energy,where the chemicals in the battery cool,and the heat is converted into a small amount of energy that is then once again stored in the battery?. Some of the chemical energy is converted into heat energy when current is drawn from the battery,and when the chemicals cool,the heat energy is returned as chemical energy.

Also leave the battery drain out but the volts will still show as normal or at least half the volts you started with and it will pull up the amps but if you add your negative cap to the negative of the battery the battery will charge to normal hahahahha

No need to charge a battery ever again hahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaha !
I told you I don't do drugs !

Are you sure hahahahahahhahahhahahahha ?

Its best to isolate that your self and I do it in 2 ways one with a small universal motor say from a tile cutter 500 watt with added neo and ferrite magnets and tap it from a battery ..... But tap it in the 5th scale note of the frequency that the motor is spinning ! Do this for an hour than ground the negative of the battery to earth and the battery will charge it self up hahahhahahahah
I told you I don't do drugs

Well maybe a little happy gas