A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?

[gotoluc]

I second Brad

The hat fits MH, like it or not... can we all be wrong?   I'm sure you think so and will argue the point.

Just carry on with another of your youtube accounts.

I can only think of 2 reasons to troll, personal entertainment or profit. Only you know which

Luc

[d3x0r]

I am going to close the loop on Robert Murray-Smith.  Much to my surprise he made a clip about me on his YouTube channel alleging that I am a troll:

"On User2718218 A Troll And What To Do About Him"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvRAjq3h1g

Here is my response that was posted on his clip that nobody could see:

<<<
So I watched the clip Robert and it's a fake sales pitch alleging that I
am a troll.  I will explain why, but you know the reason why already. 
Every contact that I made with you was about the technical merits, or
lack of merits, in the few clips of yours that I engaged with you on. 
You made some clips stating that you made these huge home-brew
supercapacitors with allegedly insanely high energy densities but you
offered up NO CREDIBLE MEASUREMENTS.  You risked damaging one of your
supercapacitors by shorting it to a voltage source that was much higher
than the breakdown of your capacitor like a rank amateur and I told you
that for your own good.  And then finally we have the two infamous
clips, where in one of them YOU MEASURE THE CURRENT BUT YOU DO NOT
MEASURE THE VOLTAGE WHICH IS INSANE.  In the other one you make a
ridiculously inaccurate measurement of the active ingredient in the
Lithium battery by being at the absolute bottom of the range of the
digital scale.

And what have you had to say about my technical
comments?  NOTHING, you ignored them because you have NO TECHNICAL
REBUTTAL.  All that you could do was insult me like a chav.  In that
sense, YOU are the troll, and you still INTENTIONALLY IGNORE the
technical stuff because I am bloody well right about the technical stuff
and you know it.  Your clip about me is a fake sales pitch because I
exposed your technical junk that anybody with a decent understanding of
tech would recognize as JUNK.
>>>

His clip alleging that I am a troll is junk.  Every time I engaged with him it was about him demonstrating bad electronics practices, or making grossly inaccurate measurements and arriving at false conclusions.  The worst engagement with him was when Robert made a ridiculous measurement mistake that an educated 12-year-old doing a science fair project would not make.  How can a fully grown man with a PhD make a mistake measuring the energy in a capacitor that an enthusiastic 12-year-old would not make?

MileHigh

You're such a troll  
How is his system of power measurement not exactly what digital systems do? 


You dislike that he's measuring with 0 resistance instead of infinite resistance?  (with an amp meter vs a volt meter)
the resistance is known; it's therefore known what the voltage is at any point you know the current.


can't imagine what you actually started with to be called out  


Some other comments from user?

They do allow you to type single long comments now on youtube...?

Edit - cuz I can...

Oh just because you're sharing information doesn't mean what they are learning that involves the same information is actually coming from you?  It could be synchronicity?  And certainly you can't make a horse drink.

maybe a better view of user27....  

You've got the gift of gab don't you?  Somehow you find the longest way to put the fewest words together?  Maybe they become numb like glancing over paragraphs in a book that drones on? *shrug*  Just taking shots in the dark, nothing personal, I don't even know you.

[MileHigh]

Luc:

I am not near mindless mush like you when it comes to evaluating what someone is presenting.

Robert Murray-Smith goes to measure the "energy" in a capacitor and he measures the current only and ignores the voltage.  That would be a FAIL in a grade six science fair project.

Let's just imagine two hypothetical conversations, you and Robert and me and Robert.

---

Luc:  Wow Robert, that's really interesting and you are taking an interesting and different approach.  Thanks for sharing.
RMS:  Thanks mate.

----

Me:  Robert, it doesn't make sense that you measured the current only and didn't measure the voltage.
RMS:  You are an idiot.

----

I have the moral high ground Luc and I am no troll.  Kiss my ass with both of your ridiculous allegations about me.  I have a spine and I told RMS to his face that he was making mistakes, and he made several.  He couldn't take it because he was used to his bunch of non-technical YouTube sycophants gobbling up whatever he was saying even if it didn't make sense.  RMS deleted all of his comments to me because more that half of them were just stupid insults and he never once engaged with me on the legitimate technical points I was making with him.  He didn't engage because he CAN'T - he was wrong.

So you can go sulk in a corner because with respect to RMS I have the moral high ground.  I was doing something that was morally right by approaching him and questioning him.  You trying to go after me is just a failure of your own morality.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

You're such a troll  
How is his system of power measurement not exactly what digital systems do? 

You dislike that he's measuring with 0 resistance instead of infinite resistance?  (with an amp meter vs a volt meter)
the resistance is known; it's therefore known what the voltage is at any point you know the current.

can't imagine what you actually started with to be called out  


Some other comments from user?

They do allow you to type single long comments now on youtube...?

Edit - cuz I can...

Oh just because you're sharing information doesn't mean what they are learning that involves the same information is actually coming from you?  It could be synchronicity?  And certainly you can't make a horse drink.

No I am not a troll.   Your comments about the measurement issue make no sense at all.

RMS did a long slow discharge of one of his devices to supposedly measure the energy in the device.  He measured the current flow and the time increments but he ignored the decreasing voltage during the discharge.  Like I said, a smart 12-year-old that was doing a science fair project about measuring the energy in a capacitor would not make that mistake.

Now, do you have the moral courage and the personal integrity to say his measurement was wrong, or not?

[d3x0r]

No I am not a troll.   Your comments about the measurement issue make no sense at all.

RMS did a long slow discharge of one of his devices to supposedly measure the energy in the device.  He measured the current flow and the time increments but he ignored the decreasing voltage during the discharge.  Like I said, a smart 12-year-old that was doing a science fair project about measuring the energy in a capacitor would not make that mistake.

Now, do you have the moral courage and the personal integrity to say his measurement was wrong, or not?

Ended after several edits with...

You've got the gift of gab don't you?  Somehow you find the longest way to put the fewest words together?  Maybe they become numb like glancing over paragraphs in a book that drones on? *shrug*  Just taking shots in the dark, nothing personal, I don't even know you.[/size]


*Shrug*


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Edit : Uhmm... he takes the high current and high voltage and low current and low voltage and makes a trapazoid and yes it's a better guess because there is a dip in the middle... but with just a few subdivisions it's pretty close to the integral even minus a chunk, which is missing less in that sum than what he's chopping off the end of it would fill....