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Overunity Machines Forum



Evaporation Driven Self-Sustaining System

Started by gravityblock, December 01, 2015, 01:28:33 PM

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Nink

Quote from: gravityblock on December 07, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
In my previous post, I clearly showed how the system can be simplified in a humid environment and how it's easy to maintain two environments (1 humid and 1 dryer).

I must have missed this post could you tell me again how without the use of any external energy source you get the water to the top of the device to flow down and maintain 2 environments 1 humid and 1 dry. 

Quote from: gravityblock on December 07, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
I'm not adding components to solve the problem the previous components created as you falsely assert.

You appear to have quite a shopping list.

Quote from: gravityblock on December 07, 2015, 03:40:38 PM
The shutters open and closes as the spores absorb and release humidity from the device. 
The shutters are new. This is new and not part of the invention.

The Warkawater Tower is new. This is new and not part of the invention.

The oscillatory engine  is new. This is new and not part of the invention.

Quote from: gravityblock on December 07, 2015, 03:40:38 PM
If it's in a humid environment, then components, such as the water reservoir, wet paper towels, and the WarkaWater Tower isn't necessary.
How do you keep one side Humid and one side dry?   If it is a humid environment the spores on both sides would be moist so their is no potential difference between the two sides so the wheel will be in balance and will not turn.   

Quote from: gravityblock on December 07, 2015, 03:40:38 PM
  If it's in a dry environment, then the water reservoir, wet paper towels, and the WarkaWater Tower is necessary.
So how do you get the water to the top of the reservoir?  How do you keep half dry and half moist.  Is this back to your shutters you need to power to open and close and your "oscillatory engine" 
What is powering these devices?

gravityblock

Quote from: gravityblock on December 07, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
In my previous post, I clearly showed how the system can be simplified in a humid environment and how it's easy to maintain two environments (1 humid and 1 dryer).

Gravock

Quote from: Nink on December 07, 2015, 03:56:14 PM
I must have missed this post could you tell me again how without the use of any external energy source you get the water to the top of the device to flow down and maintain 2 environments 1 humid and 1 dry. 

What's the purpose for the water reservoir and the wet paper towels?  It's to create a humid environment for one half of the wheel.  If the air is naturally humid in a specific environment, then the water reservoir and the wet paper towels isn't necessary for it's proper operation, thus it's not necessary to recycle the evaporated moisture to the water reservoir at the top of the device.  If the air isn't naturally humid, then the water reservoir, wet paper towels, and the WarkaWater Tower can be utilized.  The evaporated water that is released through the shutters will be rising which can be recycled through condensation via the WarkaWater Tower.  If the natural humidity levels change from a dry environment to a humid environment, then the evaporated water escaping through the shutters can be recycled through condensation via the WarkaWater Tower and diverted into a water storage tank instead of the water reservoir for the moisture mill.  If the natural humidity levels change from a humid environment to a dry environment, then the evaporated water escaping through the shutters can be recycled through condensation via the WarkaWater Tower and diverted into the water reservoir of the moisture mill instead of the water storage tank.

The oscillatory engine (video) is based on the same basic operating principals of the spores expanding and contracting as we find in the moisture mill.  Placing an oscillatory engine over one half of the wheel in a naturally humid environment causes that half of the wheel to be dryer than the other half.  As the spores in the oscillatory engines absorbs the humidity from the surrounding air, then the surrounding air on that side will become dryer.  The spores will expand as they absorb the humidity from the surrounding air, which mechanically opens a shutter to allow the spores to evaporate their moisture content into the air above it without any external electrical energy.  As the spores release their moisture content through the shutters, then they will become dryer and contract, which then mechanically closes the shutter.  When the shutters are closed, then the spores of the oscillatory engine will begin to swell and expand again as the spores from the moisture mill release their moisture content on that side of the wheel.  The spores of the oscillatory engine will capture the moisture released from the spores of the moisture mill and vent this moisture through the shutters, which maintains a dryer environment on one half of the wheel.  The process will then repeat itself, and there will be a continuous removal of humidity on one half of the moisture mill without any external electrical energy.

What I'm proposing is a dynamic system that can utilize or not utilize certain components of the system according to the natural humidity levels in which it may be operating in.  Simply diverting the recycled evaporated water that escapes through the shutters to or away from the water reservoir of the moisture mill will determine which components of the system is active or inactive.  It's that simple!

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: gravityblock on December 07, 2015, 03:40:38 PM
The shutters open and closes as the spores absorb and release humidity from the device.

Gravock

Quote from: Nink on December 07, 2015, 03:56:14 PM
The shutters are new. This is new and not part of the invention.

The Warkawater Tower is new. This is new and not part of the invention.

The oscillatory engine  is new. This is new and not part of the invention.

Three additional false assertion by you!  The shutters operate on the same basic operating principals of the moisture mill and is related to the same invention of Sahin.  Once again, the oscillatory engine operates on the same basic operating principals of the moisture mill and is related to the same invention of Sahin.  The WarkaWater Tower is beneficial to Sahin's invention, and it helps to more fully develop his invention.  It's totally irrelevant if it's old or new!  ROFLMAO!!!

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: Nink on December 07, 2015, 03:56:14 PM
Is this back to your shutters you need to power to open and close and your "oscillatory engine" 
What is powering these devices?

You're totally lost.  The spores expanding and contracting as they absorb and release moisture in the surrounding air is what is powering these devices.  Where have you been?  ROFLMAO!!!

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Nink

You are making this up as you go along. 

If the system would work without 1) continually filling the top reservoir with water in an open environment  or 2) Using a pump and fan in a closed environment (that you continually say they did not do, but pasted a screen shot of anyway) then why didn't the inventors do this? 

Are you just smarter than the guys who invented it?

How is the environment kept dry that your vents are opening into?

How is the environment kept moist that the vents are opening from ?

Is the water wheel in the Humid environment or the Dry environment? 

How does the water wheel traverse between the two environments Dry and Humid (through the vents) ?

Is the water wheel going through the vents when they are closed ? 

DRAW A PICTURE PLEASE .  THINK IT THROUGH, STOP MAKING THINGS UP AS YOU GO.

So I will ask the same question again HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN 2 ENVIRONMENTS 1 DRY AND AND 1 HUMID WITHOUT AN EXTERNAL POWER SOURCE?

And the pump and air fan once again that was used in the test for your reference in the closed humid environment.