Dr. Pavel Imris thesis about the "conservation of energy"

[lancaIV]

                                                Praeambel: Axiom
Energy can neither disappear nor arise of itself, it can only change its form. This is a physical law, defined by Robert Mayer in the year 1842nd From the beginning it was only a hypothesis, which has become over time without a thorough scientific analysis of a hardened dogma and was later declared as a law of physics. That was the stumbling block with historic consequences for the whole of physics. 

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20150908&CC=DE&NR=202015005368U1&KC=U1
A device for checking if electric power is destructible, characterized in that the calorimeter (10) accumulator (1) and an electric capacitor (4) and differential thermometer (11) are countersunk, and by means of the electrical lines (2, 3) arranged on the outside, the polarity-changing unit (14) are connected and that the calorimeter (10) is sunk in the thermostat (13), in which the water temperature is controlled with thermometer (16).

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[gyulasun]

Hi Lanca,

Very interesting, to say the least...  thanks for referring to his latest application.

So, when we charge up a capacitor from a previously charged-up battery and then we discharge the capacitor back to the battery with opposite polarities, then the energy stored originally in the battery "disappears' because there is no "trace" where it was dissipated in the process. I think this is what is stated. 
The example cited in the text claims a previously charged up 24V battery (with known charge) was discharged in one hour by the switching process whereby a 100 uF capacitor was first charged up from the battery and then discharged by the same battery when the cap was connected back in parallel with the battery with opposite polarity.

quote: "With the apparatus shown in Fig. 2 many measurements have repeatedly been
performed, at various battery voltage and frequency as well as at various different
capacitance of the capacitor, with all measurements in the calorimeter temperature were always
constant. All acquired data have confirmed that the discharge energy in many thousands of Joule
heat energy has no equivalent in, say, in the words of Robert Mayer "the energy has disappeared."  unquote

Thanks,
Gyula

[conradelektro]

The energy is mainly going into the recharging of the battery (accumulator).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93acid_battery

- When the capacitor is charged the battery is discharged, a chemical reaction happens in the battery which frees energy (electricity is set free).

- When the capacitor discharges back into the battery, a reverse chemical reaction happens in the battery which consumes energy (electricity is consumed).

Very little heat is produced during both chemical reactions.

Equivalent: It is like lifting a weight from the floor and letting it drop back to the floor. Lifting the weight is equivalent to charging the battery (it consumes energy to lift the weight) and letting the weight drop back to the floor is like discharging the battery (energy is set free when the weight drops back to the floor).

The error in the strange patent is to disregard (or to overlook) the two chemical reactions in the battery. One reaction (discharging) frees energy and the other (charging) consumes energy. The net sum is close to zero, some small heat losses happen.

Does anybody really think that science has overlooked such a simple thing for two centuries? Come on, be real!

Greetings, Conrad

[gyulasun]

Hi Conrad,

Yes I understand all that and agree with what you wrote.  However, what I have been pondering is that actually when the charged-up capacitor is discharged through the same battery, the capacitor's polarity is opposite to that of the battery in those moments, this  cannot cause the same reverse chemical reaction like the case when we charge the battery with the correct polarity current. 
If we replace the capacitor with a second battery and repeat the discharge process as if it was a capacitor,  a huge current would flow in the closed circuit as long as the two batteries would heavily heat up and get burnt if the switch is let ON for a certain time.  (This is the same when you short circuit two series connected batteries with a piece of wire via a switch.)

But in the case of the capacitor the huge current would flow for milliseconds only, (RC time constant defined by the inner resistances of the battery and ESR of the capacitor and the uF capacitor value)  till the capacitor (exponentially) discharges into the very low inner resistance of the (first) battery. 

So the energy from the capacitor cannot cause the normal recharging of the battery due to the reversed polarity, in this respect the battery is a load which however does not show dissipated heat. 

Thanks,
Gyula

[lancaIV]

Hello Conrad,
for me this here is not unknown : http://www.ultrabattery.com/

Hello Gyula ,
do  you mean something like this (instead the net-grid a battery-/condensator-grid ?)
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Citating:
It is known as a capacitor behaves in the network. Although this apparently transmits electricity, it consumes no power. A capacitor takes during the amplitude rise to power and delivers exactly this current during the amplitude drop to the mains again. When the capacitor is charged but switched to Zustan during the amplitude drop to the network, the discharge takes place in the network, even if the charge was not originally comes from the network. At the zero crossing of the mains voltage of the capacitor must be disconnected from the mains again, because otherwise he would be recharged from the grid with opposite polarity. When the capacitor is thus charged before Amplitudenabfal from any power source, and is discharged during the amplitude drop in the power, power is supplied to the grid. If this makes this capacitor during the positive half-wave, a second capacitor, this may during the negative half-wave. However, this principle also works with only one half-wave.